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Old 09-02-2008, 07:09 PM   #271 (permalink)
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haha, then it looks like we will both attempt it in the same week almost! I think I'll attempt it on the 25/10, week before I get into a bench shirt.
Same thing with my 115, it was comfortable
It will be the same time, if I dont do it on the 25th it will be the 27th


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wow, man. congrats on the PR's. Especially jealous of the bench (I know vanity press) and the weight gain. Good stuff!
thanks man
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I reckon i'm not to far off 120kg at the moment, 115kg wasnt a do or die rep, so I should be good for 125kg in 8 weeks.
I wouldn't mind a piece of that but I won't try it until I finish Maximum Strength in early November. I am still in Phase 2/Week 7 so I will not be doing a 1RM test for bench until next week. Did 2x3x215lb bench last week which equates to about a 234lb (106.4kg) 1RM. That was after 8x3 speed bench press. My revised Moving Day goal just happens to be 275lb with my original goal of 315lb (143kg) being my year end goal.
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Nice job on the PR. I liked the speed bench before doing heavy work. Did you feel like it helped with your max attempts? You'll enjoy Phase IV; lots of >90% work.
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I wouldn't mind a piece of that but I won't try it until I finish Maximum Strength in early November. I am still in Phase 2/Week 7 so I will not be doing a 1RM test for bench until next week. Did 2x3x215lb bench last week which equates to about a 234lb (106.4kg) 1RM. That was after 8x3 speed bench press. My revised Moving Day goal just happens to be 275lb with my original goal of 315lb (143kg) being my year end goal.
join in, we wont be trying untill the end of october, so you wont be that far behind.

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Nice job on the PR. I liked the speed bench before doing heavy work. Did you feel like it helped with your max attempts? You'll enjoy Phase IV; lots of >90% work.
Thanks, the speed work does help before hand, I like it. I'm looking forward to P4, P3 is off to a good start.
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Wednesday 3rd September 08

Phase 3
Week 9 - High


a - Barbell Floor Press
100kg x 3 x 3 (220lbs)
90kg x 5 x 2 (198lbs)

b1 - band resisted pushup
bw+20kg x 7 x 1
bw+30kg x 7 x 2
bw +20kg x 10 x 1

b2 - Supine Grip T- Bar Row
60kg x 7 x 3 (132lbs)
50kg x 10 x 1 (110lbs)

c1 - face pull w/ ext rotation
10 x 3

c2 - behind the neck band pullapart
3 x 12


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Thursday 4th September 08

Phase 3
Week 9 - High


a - Speed Squat 50% (Medium Stance)

55kg x 3 x 10
- I could actually squat with a 'medium stance', I have been
working pretty hard on my squat mobility etc.
so its good its been working

b1 - Rack Pulls (from knees)
120kg x 5 x 3 (264lbs)
100kg x 7 x 2 (220lbs)

b2 - Wall ankle mobilization
8e x 4

c1 - Rev Lunge (front foot elevated)
bw x 5e x 3
bw x 7e x 1

d1 - Cable wood chop
3 x 10e

d2 - S/Squat Iso Hold
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Saturday 6th September 08

Phase 3
Week 9 - High


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speed pin press (50%)
57.5kg x 3 x 10

b1 - close neutral grip t-bar
60kg x 5 x 3
55kg x 7 x 2

b2 - DB push press
25kg/e x 5 x 3
20kg/e x 7 x 1

c1 - straight arm pulldown
3 x 12

c2 - lying DB extension
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Monday 8th September 08

Phase 3
Week 10 - Medium


a1 - Snatch Grip Dead
warmups.....to
135kg x 2 x 2 (297lbs)
120kg x 2 x 2 (264lbs)

- wasnt happening at all

a2 - Seated 90/90 Stretch
15s each leg x 5

b - Speed Dead (65%)
115kg x 1 x 8 (253lbs)

c - Walking Lunge
- didnt even bother

d1 - Dragon Flag
bw x 12 x 3

d2 - DB Suitcase Dead
- not tonight

- was very tired going into this one, but I wanted to give it a go anyway,
still ended up being ok , meh
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:57 PM   #279 (permalink)
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Snatch grip deads always seemed like a bad idea to me anyway.
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watch the twig and berries on those snatch grip deadlifts.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:44 AM   #281 (permalink)
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i love snatch grip deads they have helped me off the floor a lot
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They have to be good for grip strength also
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Wednesday 10th September 08

Phase 3
Week 10 - Medium


a - Barbell Floor Press
warmups....
110kg x 1 x 1 (242lbs) - was a slow rep
105kg x 2 x 1 (231lbs)
100kg x 2 x 2 (220lbs)

90kg x 4 x 2 (198lbs)

b1 - band resisted pushup
bw+30kg x 7 x 3
bw +20kg x 10 x 1

b2 - Supine Grip T- Bar Row
60kg x 7 x 3 (132lbs)
45kg x 10 x 1 (100lbs)

c1 - face pull w/ ext rotation
10 x 3

c2 - behind the neck band pullapart
3 x 12

- wasnt really into it again, and had to drop the floor presses down a bit
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Thursday 11th September 08

Phase 3
Week 10-Medium


a - Speed Squat 55% (Medium Stance)

60kg x 2 x 8

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100kg x 2 x 2 (220lbs)

- these werent wide stance just to parallel, painful hip flexor squats.
But ATG 'medium stance' squats, what a difference 10 weeks has made.
Mobility has improve 100000x - awesome


b1 - Rack Pulls (from knees)
100kg x 5 x 2 (220lbs)
90g x 7 x 1 (198lbs)

- kept these nice and light

b2 - Wall ankle mobilization
8e x 4

c1 - Rev Lunge (front foot elevated)
? (not much) x 5e x 3
bw x 7e x 1

d1 - Cable wood chop
3 x 10e

d2 - S/Squat Iso Hold
2 x 20s each leg

- was pretty tired again, our new puppy decided to keep us up (wednesday) night, so i kept everything but the squats pretty easy.

- im happy to report the dog slept all night last night (thursday)
I feel much better today.
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Are you actually doing weighted push-ups instead of band-resisted? I see you reporting weights. I have a "heavy" and a "medium" band but have no clue what kinds of force they are really applying. I like band-resisted push-ups because they apply more force as you are locking your arms out.
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Are you actually doing weighted push-ups instead of band-resisted? I see you reporting weights. I have a "heavy" and a "medium" band but have no clue what kinds of force they are really applying. I like band-resisted push-ups because they apply more force as you are locking your arms out.
yep they are weighted, I dont have bands suited for pushups
so I figure a few plates in a backpack are the next best thing
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Sunday 14th September 08

Phase 3
Week 10-Medium


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speed pin press (55%)
62.5kg x 3 x 8
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105kg x 2 x 2 (231lbs)


b1 - close neutral grip t-bar
60kg x 5 x 3
55kg x 7 x 1

b2 - DB push press
25kg/e x 5 x 3
20kg/e x 7 x 1

c1 - straight arm pulldown

c2 - lying DB extension

family duties called so i skipped the last 2.

- I have a problem with my bench, for the pin presses and floor presses I have been using a slightly wider grip which seems to be a better position for me, but thats where the bar racks on my bench so I have to use a narrower grip, for full ROM benching. DOnt know if it makes a big difference in strength, but it does feel stronger a little wider.
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How much longer is this program?
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Monday night training didnt happen, we had some wild weather and I came home to find the kids trampoline about 70m from where it should have been, it was lying in a crumpled heap in the neighbours yard.
and it even ripped some of our gutter off the roof on its way past the house.
Damn wind
So after I had taken care of that, there was no time to train, I'll have to shuffle some things around to catch things up


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Im in week 10 of 16, so not long to go, week 16 will be when I set a shitload of massive PR's
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Phase 3
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a - Barbell Floor Press
100kg x 3 x 3 (220lbs)
90kg x 5 x 2 (198lbs)

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I think that the 5x2 is for the Low_Incline Dumbbell Press done for Weeks 11 and 12. Otherwise, it would have been shown as 3x3,5x2. With that said, I am going to do what you did because I feel like I got enough in me.
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Wednesday 17th September 08

Phase 3
Week 11 - very high


a1 - Box Front Squat
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80kg x 4 x 1 (176lbs)
90kg x 4 x 2 (200lbs)
80kg x 5 x 2

a2 - Seated 90/90 Stretch
15s each leg x 5

b - Speed Dead (70%)
125kg x 1 x 10 (275lbs)

c - Walking Lunge
- dropped these for time

d1 - Dragon Flag
3 x 10

d2 - DB Suitcase Dead
2 x 10

- was a bit rushed on this one, squats felt good, as did deads
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solid, man. good work as always. anxious to see all those new PRs
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I think that the 5x2 is for the Low_Incline Dumbbell Press done for Weeks 11 and 12. Otherwise, it would have been shown as 3x3,5x2. With that said, I am going to do what you did because I feel like I got enough in me.
Check out page 29-30 of the book, under the Phase 3 part it says

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......In the stage system you perform low-rep sets of a given movement with a heavy load and then follow up with a highe-rep sets of the same movement with a slightly lighter (but still heavy) load.......
and the assistance stuff has the 2 different rep ranges also, so I figured it was the same for the main movement
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Thhursday 18th September 08

Phase 3
Week 11 - very high


a - Low Icline DB
30kgdb x 4 x 3
25kg x 5 x 2

- too light


b1 - band resisted pushup
bw+30kg x 7 x 3
bw +20kg x 10 x 1

b2 - Supine Grip T- Bar Row
60kg x 7 x 3 (132lbs)
50kg x 10 x 1 (100lbs)

c1 - face pull w/ ext rotation
10 x 3

c2 - behind the neck band pullapart
3 x 12


- cruised through this one
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Better update this thing, have been busy

Ended up combing the last 2 workouts and just did the main movements

Maximum Strength
Monday 22nd September 08

Phase 3
Week 11 - very high


a - Speed Squat @ 60%

65kg x 2 x 10
- feeling good


b - Speed Pin Press (60%)
70kg x 3 x 10

c - close ng T-Bar
60kg x 5 x 3
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Wednesday 24th September 08

Phase 3
Week 12 - De-Load

a1 - Box Front Squat
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100kg x 2 x 2 (220lbs) - PR I think
80kg x 4 x 1

a2 - Seated 90/90 Stretch
15s each leg x 5

b - Speed Dead -
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c - Walking Lunge
light x 7e x 2
lighter x 10e x 1

d1 - Dragon Flag
3 x 12

d2 - DB Suitcase Dead
3 x 10

- pretty happy with 2 x 100kg for a front squat, surely my back squat is higher
than 110kg now.

- this week will be a bit shitty as well, probably only get another workout in
casue Im off to the coast for the weekend.

- then its 3 weeks of Phase 4 and i'm done

- weight wise I think Im down around 86kg (~189lbs), was feeling a bit shitty a few weeks back, a bit of weight loss and
I'm feeling pretty good now.

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Thursday 25th September 08

Phase 3
Week 12 - de-load

a - Low Icline DB
30kgdb x 2 x 2
20kg x 4 x 1


b1 - band resisted pushup
bw+20kg x 7 x 2
bw +10kg x 10 x 1

b2 - Supine Grip T- Bar Row
50kg x 7 x
45kg x 10 x 1

c1 - face pull w/ ext rotation
10 x 3

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Monday 29th September 08

PHASE 4
Week 13 - HIGH

a - Front Box Squat
...... warmups....
7 singles >90%
100kg x 1 x 2 (220lbs)
105kg x 1 x 3 (230lbs)
110kg x 1 x 2 (242lbs) - PR, this was my back squat 1rm before the program started.

b - Speed Dead 60%
110kg x 1 x 8

c - B/bell Rev Lunge w/ front squat grip
3 x 8e x not much

d - Palloff Press
3 x 8 e


- off to a good start, 3 weeks to go before testing again
the squats are a nice little motivator going into the final weeks
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Awesome front squat, thats some serious progress there.

Question for ya, I haven't started Maximum Strength yet, hope to in a few weeks, but take Phase 1 for example and the bench press. Did you get the impression that we were supposed to keep the weight the same from week 1 (5x4) to week 2 (4x4) to week 3 (8x3)? Or should we do as much as we can do with good form? Im just not sure if were supposed to attempt to put on an extra 2.5 or 5 lbs, or keep it the same.

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Read the quote below from Tony G's log over at T-Nation in regards to the weekly volume changes.
It should answer your question.

As far as what I did, it went like this
W1 - 90kg x 4 x 5
W2 - 90kg x 4 x 4
W3 - 92.5kg x 3 x 8
W4 - 92.5kg x 3 x 3


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Like anything, it depends. The reason why we're adamant on fluctuating training stress is because we want to manage overall fatigue. One's fatigue will ALWAYS mask their true fitness, and I think many trainees make the mistake of continuing to pile on volume week after week and often wonder why they're not making any progress.

I great example of how each week is structured would be taking the "main" movement of the day (bench press in this example).

Week #1: 4x5
Week #2: 4x4
Week #3: 5x5
Week #4: 3x5

We may play around with accessory work as well, but that would give you some semblance of what it is I mean by fluctuating training stress.

Week 1 serves as an "introduction" to the movement. Weight may be kept conservative while they get acclimated to the movement.

Week 2 we can increase weight a bit, but bring volume down slightly

Week 3 serves as a VERY high volume week. By now, they should be somewhat comfortable with the movement and the trainee shouldn't be scared to amp it up a bit.

Week 4 is the de-load, which will allow some supercompensation to occur and then they can come back in week #1 on their next program and get after again.

Hopefully that makes sense
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