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Old 08-23-2008, 09:40 AM   #301 (permalink)
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Won't be nice until I'm beating the old records.

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Speaking of PRs. Do you separate 'inflated' PRs from 'raw' PRs?
Viz. wearing all the 'worx' PL-suits etc. versus not wearing anything except perhaps knee wraps, but no straps etc?

Not that I am using any equipment to be stronger, am not even using straps since sofar grip hasn't failed me (appparently I'm one of the few lucky women with decent grip), but I've been playing around with wave loading for a few months when I was eating at/over mtn and have since then , after dropping calories to a modest cut, resumed to straight sets. Not that I'm really much weaker now, but it depresses me to look at my graphs and see the higher amount of reps that I used to be able to do with the wave loading.

I know I shouldn't be bothered too much as those numbers are 'inflated' but yet, it irritates me to such an extent that I'm going to resume waveloading again.

Is it a bad idea to do wave loading while on an overall (tiny) deficit.. I'm generally eating (quite a bit) over mtn on lifting days, but I'm still slightly worried that I'd be wearing out my CNS too much and hence won't recover as well.

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Speaking of PRs. Do you separate 'inflated' PRs from 'raw' PRs?
Viz. wearing all the 'worx' PL-suits etc. versus not wearing anything except perhaps knee wraps, but no straps etc?
If I used any of that stuff I would. I don't think I've even put a belt on in over a year now, let alone use the wraps, briefs, etc that's been sitting in my gym bag.

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If I were training in gear, I'd definitely account for that as compared to raw numbers. Geared lifting is still exposing you to a higher absolute load, even if the mechanics of the lift are altered.

I just have no reason to use any equipment for the time being. That may change in the near future, but for now I find that for my goals there's no need for it.
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Carry on then.

Lifting today:

Bench, warmups then 2-board, 90x5, 115x2 (WTF), 100x5 (WTFx2)
DB flyes, 50lbs/5x10
DB tri extensions, 30lbs/5x10

Got some troubleshooting to do on Mr. 2-board. Last week was two sets of 5 with 112.5 that were moderately hard, but nothing special. Today, 115 felt way too heavy. Backoff set to 100 was heavier than it should have been even though I got the reps.

Not gonna freak too much just yet, because there's several things that could have caused it and this could be a fluke, but I'm scratching my head a bit anyway.

Didn't want to push the issue after that so I just did some pump 'n tone crap to finish up.
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Tuesday:

Front SQ + chains, warmups, 115 (253)x2
Back SQ + chains, 125 (275)x10
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Suppose I could update this. I lifted on Wednesday and Friday of last week, don't remember what I did and don't guess it matters.

Skipped the weekend because I wanted beer more than exercise.

Started UD2 on Monday, just because.

Yesterday and today I did the ever so fun depletion training. With that out of the way, the rest of the week isn't so bad.

If anybody cares about the details, it looked like

Leg Press, Leg Extension, Leg Curl - 3x15, then repeated
Chest Press, Pulldown, Incline Chest, Cable Row - 3x15, then repeated
Calves - 3x15
Arms - 2x20 biceps/triceps

Second day was just a variation on that. Been peeing out a lot of water, which is the norm for starting a UD2 cycle.

I'm actually dreading the carb load, because....man, that's a lot of carbs. There comes a point when carbs stop being fun and start being work. Since I'm actually going to try and follow the guidelines instead of just drinking beer and eating pizza, it's all the more painful.
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You know, there are 11 pages of this log and I'm thinking that maybe you're still fat.

Did someone say pizza?
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Suppose I could update this. I lifted on Wednesday and Friday of last week, don't remember what I did and don't guess it matters.

Skipped the weekend because I wanted beer more than exercise.

Started UD2 on Monday, just because.

Yesterday and today I did the ever so fun depletion training. With that out of the way, the rest of the week isn't so bad.

If anybody cares about the details, it looked like

Leg Press, Leg Extension, Leg Curl - 3x15, then repeated
Chest Press, Pulldown, Incline Chest, Cable Row - 3x15, then repeated
Calves - 3x15
Arms - 2x20 biceps/triceps

Second day was just a variation on that. Been peeing out a lot of water, which is the norm for starting a UD2 cycle.

I'm actually dreading the carb load, because....man, that's a lot of carbs. There comes a point when carbs stop being fun and start being work. Since I'm actually going to try and follow the guidelines instead of just drinking beer and eating pizza, it's all the more painful.
Whoa. GQ did depletion yesterday, too. So, it's true how your "cycles" sorta sync up like that. Weird.
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Jeebus. I haaaaaaaaaaaated the carb loading in UD2. Just really hated it. I mean, really, how many rice krispies can one person eat?
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You know, there are 11 pages of this log and I'm thinking that maybe you're still fat.

Did someone say pizza?
My fatness will go away about the same time as my deadlift starts to improve again.

Ahh pizza. How I miss it. You can't get a decent one down here.

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Yeah, it's rough. I was sick of carbs in the first hour today.

Interestingly, I depleted the hell out of some weight.

Monday - 91.1kg (200.5 lbs)
Tuesday - 90.6kg (199 lbs)
Today (Thursday) - 88.6kg (195 lbs)

Not that it matters all that much, but it always amazes me how my weight drops so fast. I've been peeing out water like crazy the last couple of days.

Expectedly, the tension workout sucked. But it always sucks.

UD2 is a huge pain in the ass, but damned if it doesn't work like magic.
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UD2 is a huge pain in the ass, but damned if it doesn't work like magic.

Indeed. Carb it up Fatty McFatty!

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Carb up went well. Or shitty, depending on how you look at it. By last night I was completely sick of food.

Weight today was back up to 90.5kg, as expected. Trend will have to be monitored over the next few weeks.

Tried to do the heavy workout today, but was thwarted by strong MMA faggotry.

The punching bags and whatnot are in the same part of the gym as the good EFS rack. So from the start I was greeted by 150 lb MMA fag #1 jump roping a cool 3 feet in front of the rack. To point out the absurdity of this, there was space to both the left and right of the rack. Substantial space. He picked right in front of the rack to jump rope.

Managed to get the floor pressing done anyway, though. Deadlifts? No, somebody's deadlifting and all the plates are being used.

OK, so I go do pullups. THose are done. DL still a no-go.

Figure, screw it. I'll go hit some GHRs. MMA fags #1 and 2 decide that GHR bench is a great place to stretch and superset abs.

By now I'm just pissed off, so I came home.

I'll try the DL and GHRs tomorrow if I'm not too hungover.
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Carb up went well. Or shitty, depending on how you look at it. By last night I was completely sick of food.

Weight today was back up to 90.5kg, as expected. Trend will have to be monitored over the next few weeks.

Tried to do the heavy workout today, but was thwarted by strong MMA faggotry.

The punching bags and whatnot are in the same part of the gym as the good EFS rack. So from the start I was greeted by 150 lb MMA fag #1 jump roping a cool 3 feet in front of the rack. To point out the absurdity of this, there was space to both the left and right of the rack. Substantial space. He picked right in front of the rack to jump rope.

Managed to get the floor pressing done anyway, though. Deadlifts? No, somebody's deadlifting and all the plates are being used.

OK, so I go do pullups. THose are done. DL still a no-go.

Figure, screw it. I'll go hit some GHRs. MMA fags #1 and 2 decide that GHR bench is a great place to stretch and superset abs.

By now I'm just pissed off, so I came home.

I'll try the DL and GHRs tomorrow if I'm not too hungover.
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If only I could have brought some down with me.

Oh, you mean the kind already in my blood.
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So yesterday was pretty much a beer-fest. Wife and I went down to one of our favorite haunts with the intention of having 2-3 pints, then we ran into a friend of ours and ended up spending several hours there, then going for dinner at the Vietnamese place.

Weight was 90.8kg today, which is a sight lower than last week and barely up from Saturday, so I'll call it a success.

Depletion workout didn't suck quite as much this week, although Darwin's getting back into the wet season, which means heat and more heat.
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Weekly UD2 update:

Didn't have as much of a drop from the depletion this go-round, I think I got as low as 89.4kg on Thursday. Meh.

Was back up to 91kg as of today. No huge differences all around, though I can't honestly tell if I'm leaner or not. Too soon to notice really.

Was at least able to get the power workout done today.

Floor Press, 100x5, 110/2x3, 110+chains x2
Rack DL (pin 1) + quad minis, 100x4, 120x3, 140x2 (last rep ugly)
Face pulls, 4x12
DB rows, 100lbs/2x8
BB curls, 40kg x5, 45x3+3 singles
GHRs, +5kg/4x6
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Weekly UD2 update again:

This week was slightly better than last week.

Depleted weight bottomed out at 88.9, carbed back up to 90.2 by this afternoon. On a bright note, that's the lowest post-carbup weight since I started.

Powah workout was good today.

DL, 3 sets of warmup then 210 (462)x2, then 215 (473)x2
210 was meant to be a triple, but I did it with no chalk so my grip slipped right before lockout on the second rep. Chalked up for the 215 set, it went much smoother. These were a tiny bit harder than I expected, which I'm not sure is because of the weight or just because I haven't pulled heavy in about three weeks now.

Floor Press, 2 sets of warmup then 100 (220)x5, 110 (242)x3, 115 (253)x2, 120 (264)x1
Not terribly difficult, 120 was an 8.5-9. Neck/trap is starting to act up and it's projecting pain into the shoulder area. Not sure if it's pressing or the pulling that's doing that.

GHR, 1x8, +10kg/2x6
Cable row, 100kg x6+6 singles (cluster)
CS row, 20kg/3x12
BB curl, 55kg/2x1 (negatives), 40kg x6
DB extensions, 45lbs/2x8
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What stops you from squatting/pulling heavy? You always mention you're fucked up shoulders as why you can't full ROM bench, but whats up with squats n' deadz???
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Right now my priority is losing flab over lifting the heavy stuff.

I could do more, but that makes me eat more. Gotta pick something and go with it.

Once I hit a good comfortable leanness I'll start working to hammer the strength out again. As it stands I can still hit up in the 500s on the pull and high 300s/low 400s on the squat so I'm not too terribly worried about it.
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Nice progress, Matt.

I have a question that you might be able to answer.

I'm doing some "ad hoc" calorie cycling. I eat low when I can, which is typically on work days when I'm easily distracted. When I know I'm lifting that night, I eat a pretty decent lunch (600 cals or so), then about an hour before the workout, either another meal or a big P shake with some sort of high carb snack/treat. Afterward, it's more food, then bed. When I actually do this, my workouts are great, then it's back to low cal the next day.

Weekends, I slack more on the food, but get a lot of activity. Workouts at the end of the weekend are also good.

The problem comes during the week, if I misjudge my workout days or have to suddenly change things up and squeeze in a workout at the last minute and didn't get my big lunch and extra meal in before the gym. Just the pre workout meal doesn't seem to be enough and I feel tapped halfway through the workout.

Now, that I'm onto myself, I preemptively cut that workout's volume down and just focus on the important stuff and do the rest if I can.

I'm not really a workout drink guy, but maybe these workouts would be better with some bro science in a shaker bottle?

The only problem with pwo drinks seems to be the uncontrollable appetite that comes about an hour after the workout (read that as binge). Suggestions?
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Nice progress, Matt.

I have a question that you might be able to answer.

I'm doing some "ad hoc" calorie cycling. I eat low when I can, which is typically on work days when I'm easily distracted. When I know I'm lifting that night, I eat a pretty decent lunch (600 cals or so), then about an hour before the workout, either another meal or a big P shake with some sort of high carb snack/treat. Afterward, it's more food, then bed. When I actually do this, my workouts are great, then it's back to low cal the next day.

Weekends, I slack more on the food, but get a lot of activity. Workouts at the end of the weekend are also good.

The problem comes during the week, if I misjudge my workout days or have to suddenly change things up and squeeze in a workout at the last minute and didn't get my big lunch and extra meal in before the gym. Just the pre workout meal doesn't seem to be enough and I feel tapped halfway through the workout.

Now, that I'm onto myself, I preemptively cut that workout's volume down and just focus on the important stuff and do the rest if I can.

I'm not really a workout drink guy, but maybe these workouts would be better with some bro science in a shaker bottle?

The only problem with pwo drinks seems to be the uncontrollable appetite that comes about an hour after the workout (read that as binge). Suggestions?
Hmm...yeah that is a problem.

If you've not eaten anything, it's better to get some kind of pro/carb mix in you. That's always going to be better than going in relatively un-fed.

But yeah, liquid food can make the appetite an issue. Maybe sub in some convenient pocket-food? Even a tuna + apple combo would work, doesn't have to be anything fancy.
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Did a half-ass UD2 knock-off this week. Missed Monday's depletion cause I just didn't feel like lifting. Did a pretty exhaustive one on Tuesday. No cardio at all this week, which probably hurt, but weight was still lower as usual by yesterday's tension wo.

Didn't do remotely a full carb-load, just light snacking last night and today. Wife's show is on Sunday, so tomorrow will be full of food goodness and Sunday I'll just be drunk.

Plan to start back to a normal UD2 Monday. It's working as planned, and I'm finally getting some momentum behind me.

I've been tempted with a CAPO DL meet in December, and full meet in February. I'm debating this, for a couple reasons. CAPO is the WPO arm down here (meaning, drugs and multi-ply gear are part of the entry requirements). Both of which I'm trying to stay away from for the time being, but man is it ever tempting.

I'm still dieting and plan to be for awhile, although DL strength is actually faring pretty well at the moment. I've no doubts I could hit a 250-260kg when properly belted and chalked, even under current conditions and drug-less. It's tempting just to do the damn thing, but I probably won't. I just can't get that motivated about powerlifting anymore.
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Got washboard abz yet?

You should just chizzle down to 165 and pull 600lbs like Cressey.
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:27 AM   #325 (permalink)
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Got washboard abz yet?

You should just chizzle down to 165 and pull 600lbs like Cressey.
Hell naw. But I am making visible progress. It's just going to be slow on the UD2. It's the only way I can really work on strength at the same time, so that's fine with me.

I don't think I can get down to 165 any more, either way. There actually is a little bit of muscle under the flab layers.
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the WPO is gone..?

if its wpc at the amature level they offer drug tested divisions, or at least here they do. Thats what ill be doing in may i think, no need to mess with the endocrine system yet.
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Hell naw. But I am making visible progress. It's just going to be slow on the UD2. It's the only way I can really work on strength at the same time, so that's fine with me.

I don't think I can get down to 165 any more, either way. There actually is a little bit of muscle under the flab layers.
Just make sure you dont get crushed by the skinny fat disease.
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Powah workout today:

Flo' press - 100x5, 110x3, 125x1, close-grip, 100x3 (note to self: close-grip strength is weak)
Rack DL (pin 1) + quad minis - 100x2, 120x1, 145x1
GHRs, +5kg x6, +10kg/2x6
Pullups, 5x5 alternated with single-leg calf raises, couple of stretched holds for 30s
Cable row, 4x8
BB curl, 55kg/2x2 (negatives), 40x8
DB extensions, 45lbs/2x8, 30kg stretch

Weight's at 90.2kg, which means I didn't totally wreck this week. But I have to get on track starting Monday.
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Just make sure you dont get crushed by the skinny fat disease.
yes, that could really hurt you bad.
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Off the UD2 for the time being. This week's been odd and the next two will involve travel, so just taking it by ear until after we get back. Playing around w/ some strength/PLing stuff.

Wednesday (1 October)

BB Row, 2 warmups then 90kg/3x5
Pulldowns, 3x10

Thursday (2 October)

Shoulder warmups
1-board (wide grip), 100 (220)x3, 105 (231)/3x3, 100x3
2-board (moderate/normal grip), 100x3, 110 (242)/2x3, 105x3
3-board + chain (close grip), 100/4x3
CS Row, 4x12
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