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Old 05-30-2009, 11:07 PM   #2191 (permalink)
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I wouldn't worry about the gear, hell your squat suit is better then 90% of the doubleply suits. I would expect around a 30-50lbs jump after a full training cycle in double ply for the squat, no difference in the bench (until you get more advanced, then maybe 30lbs), and deadlift gear is the same.

A pair of briefs would be useful if you went doubleply.
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Old 05-31-2009, 06:34 PM   #2192 (permalink)
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In my warm ups for the next few weeks I'm going to start taking my squat stance out and eventually adding a plate or two to see how it feels. If I can get more weight out of a super wide stance once I get in gear, I might have to do that.

I can see squatting 600 in 2010, pulling the same and benching around 400. My ultimate goal is to squat and pull 300kg and bench 200kg for an 800 total in the ipf, and then moving to the cpo and training towards a 365kg squat.

This is only if I can get my form under control. I don't like the way I'm squatting now, I'm leaning forward too much and have to do a lot more work because of it. This is part of why I want to take my stance out.
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Check out power275's videos on youtube.
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In my warm ups for the next few weeks I'm going to start taking my squat stance out and eventually adding a plate or two to see how it feels. If I can get more weight out of a super wide stance once I get in gear, I might have to do that.

I can see squatting 600 in 2010, pulling the same and benching around 400. My ultimate goal is to squat and pull 300kg and bench 200kg for an 800 total in the ipf, and then moving to the cpo and training towards a 365kg squat.

This is only if I can get my form under control. I don't like the way I'm squatting now, I'm leaning forward too much and have to do a lot more work because of it. This is part of why I want to take my stance out.
Strange plan, why don't you go straight to the CPO if that's where you want to end up?
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Because I'd rather be good in both feds.
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Old 06-01-2009, 11:21 AM   #2196 (permalink)
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most multiply guys do fine in the ipf if they convert.
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I don't want to switch yet, I have two meets planned for this year.
Besides I saw a guy at the cpo nationals that I'm almost sure competes in the ipf, so maybe I could do both until I get good enough to be noticed.
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Old 06-01-2009, 11:33 PM   #2198 (permalink)
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the rule is only if you want to compete in ipf worlds I think? i would look into it, local meets you are fine.
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Well a guy in australia got banned for competing in a non IPF affiliated competition. He was the top ranked bencher though. In australia anyway, since its small, everybody would know if I did a non IPF comp, and I'd probably be banned.
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thats not the rule though, it has to be another feds nationals i think?
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My goal for the contest was 150 as a third attempt.
Today I touched a 1board with it and it came up fast. Shirt collar wasn't pulled down much, though I still don't think I'm getting the shirt as far up my arms as it should be.
Should the seems be right in your pits? (the way a tshirt one size too small might be)

Still six weeks out, I think I'll make my third attempt 160.
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when are you going to start touching? are you just going to do singles or triples?
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I'm going to start touching next week. I think I could have touched with that weight, it didn't seem that hard to get down to a 1 board. I'm just getting used to the shirt (and the pain) bit by bit.
I do some triples before I add weight for a single.
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for ease of touching you want the shirt all the way to the pitts. But, some people get more carryover if they wear the shirt not on 100% of the way.

Benching looks really good man, im impressed, you are much better in a shirt then I was after months of work.Touch a weight soon to see where you are at. By the looks of things I would think your opener could be 140-150kg judging by those vids. Its a little early to tell though.

Just nitpicking - I think you could get more leg drive, and even though the shirt does alot of the work at the bottom, the more speed at the bottom the easier it is to carry though to the lockout.

Also - When you touch weights next week chalk the center of the bar up and see where it is touching you. The IPF has a rule where the bar can't touch past your sternum (although, alot of lifters do touch a little below their sternum.. pretty much impossible to tell where it is when wearing a shirt). Personally, I think where you are bringing the bar down too looks excellent in terms of position and carryover, but I also don't lift in the IPF.

With some work you can be pressing 400+ quicker then you think.
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also - those wrist wraps look real shitty LOL
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I haven't gotten wraps yet, I just taped my wrists with some athletic tape that was lying around. It actually works pretty well. O-lifters use it to ease the pressure put on their wrists as well.

I definitely could get more leg drive. I'm working on it.

I was wondering about how low I can touch, thanks for bringing it up. A lot of the videos I've watched of guys that have lifted in my competitions are touching way higher, almost a bodybuilder type bench with the bar coming almost straight down.
I'll chalk the bar like you said so I can get a better idea of where the bar is hitting me.

Thanks for the encouragement.
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touch on your belly and join the CPO

actually, the fed I lift in doesn't allow belly benching either, but they do allow a lower touch then the ipf. Ive never had a problem.
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Yeah you seem to be doing really well in the shirt!
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I'll just hope no one notices.

I tried the box squats with the straps down today, against a green band. Keeping my arch was the hardest part, I really had to fight for it. Having the straps up really helps me keep my arch it seems.
With a wide stance (feet against insides of rack) and just hitting parallel I got to 400x2. There was slight tension at the bottom but not much.
Based on what I saw the bands hold when reverse band benching, I can only guess it was around 500 at the top.
Also these were touch and go as there is no way of sitting on a box in this suit.

Followed those with goodmornings, then bentover rows and ghrs. Lockouts after all that, up to 300kg held for 10sec.

I'm really beat up now, I'm walking like a zombie.
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Elbow pain returned last saturday. I was hoping it was a one time thing but the introduction of bands last week was the final straw, that plus the heavy lockouts are just too much.
I'm going to play around with some higher bar placements. At this point I'm willing to sacrifice a few pounds for my elbow health.
My goal was to squat 530-550, now I'll just concentrate on nailing the 501 that I was redlighted for in January, only I'll do it with a wide stance and high bar.

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Tried squatting high bar today. It took a few extra sets to get used to that setup but I did finally get up to 400+greens for a double, same as I got with a low bar set up last week.
I'll post a video tomorrow. I cut the reps a little high but I'll work on that.
My upper back is killing me.
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where you working off a box, straps up or down?

400 + greens for 2 reps should put you over a 500lbs squat I imagine.
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also, build up your upperback big enough that you don't have a neck anymore. It worked well for me.
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My neck is abnormally long, I'll always have it.
I had a box about an inch below parallel so I could gage depth but I didn't ever touch it. Next week I'll make sure I do.
Straps were down. I really like how much more I have to focus on keeping my arch with the straps down, I think it's good for my squat and for my back strength.
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I didn't think I could upload the video because I left my cord at home but wouldn't you know there's a slot in my laptop for a memory card.
I only have a video of 160kg+greens, after that something happened to the camera and it would shut off on its own after turning on. It's fixed now, not sure why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfhu-2-GVpE

and the band set up I used. Nothing to choke the bands around so I used two dumbbells and a 2x4 to keep them from rolling towards each other.
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I'm still leaning forward quite a bit even with my feet against the sides of the rack and the high bar position.
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are you using the squats against bands as a sort of ME movement or DE? The squat form looked good, but 4-5" high like you said. Band setup looked good too. If you can squat a little over 400 + greens to parallel, you shouldn't have a problem at all w/ a 500. You're pretty much there now.
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looks good, a little high but you got some left in the tank.

the last few inches you can drop down in a meet, up until this training cycle i never took anything all that deep in the gym and it always worked out
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400 is definitely not a DE weight.
It looks higher than it was (having shorts on over the suit, the camera angle, plus the safety pin in the way). I'd say 3" tops.
Next week I'll try and reach parallel with the 400. Then straight weight+full gear for three weeks.
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Haha that band setup is nuts lol. Also, could you drop any fucking slower????
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