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And major action will certainly make you feel a bit uncomfortable, which is absolutely fine. You've gotta get excited about feeling uncomfortable, you've gotta love feeling slightly uncomfortable, because you know that you're stepping outside the boundaries that you used to create.
Zach Even-Esh
I've made some huge mistakes, but they were necessary, because without them I wouldn't have learned anything.
-Dave Tate
I forgot to mention the 220kg squat was a 5lb PR, the 227.5kg squat was a 20lb pr, the 220kg pull was a 10lb PR, and the 227.5kg pull was a 25lb PR.
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And major action will certainly make you feel a bit uncomfortable, which is absolutely fine. You've gotta get excited about feeling uncomfortable, you've gotta love feeling slightly uncomfortable, because you know that you're stepping outside the boundaries that you used to create.
Zach Even-Esh
I've made some huge mistakes, but they were necessary, because without them I wouldn't have learned anything.
-Dave Tate
If not depth, then I have no idea what they failed you on! You should have asked the refs, I know what every single red light I have ever got was from, even if the lift was passed.
And you have your wraps done way to low, and a lil too high. You'll get less out of them that way, as wrapping too high/low doesn't give you any more.
Probably got called for depth on the one side, and possibly not starting the lift fully locked out. Wouldn't worry about it to much, you obviously have the strength for that lift.
On your last pull, you could have got red lighted for dropping the bar. Maybe they felt bad for your last squat! haha.
there is no music at the meet? sounds like a church in there
I was told that about dropping the bar as I walked away from that last pull actually. It's a good thing they gave it to me, I would have been pissed if they took that away too.
I think I lied in my breakdown of the competition. During the first two squat attempts, I got one red light each I think. Probably also because I was leaning forward. So they figured since they gave me my first two attempts, they'd use the third to teach me a lesson?
I can't stand straight with a bar on my back, and I'm not even sure how to go about working on that.
Honestly Simon, I'm not even sure who the judges were or where they were sitting. The only thing I pay attention to is what I'm lifting next.
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And major action will certainly make you feel a bit uncomfortable, which is absolutely fine. You've gotta get excited about feeling uncomfortable, you've gotta love feeling slightly uncomfortable, because you know that you're stepping outside the boundaries that you used to create.
Zach Even-Esh
I've made some huge mistakes, but they were necessary, because without them I wouldn't have learned anything.
-Dave Tate
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And major action will certainly make you feel a bit uncomfortable, which is absolutely fine. You've gotta get excited about feeling uncomfortable, you've gotta love feeling slightly uncomfortable, because you know that you're stepping outside the boundaries that you used to create.
Zach Even-Esh
I've made some huge mistakes, but they were necessary, because without them I wouldn't have learned anything.
-Dave Tate
matt! long time since ive been in here but your lifts are looking AMAZING! congrats on the 1200...youve progressed a lot since ive been in here last. its looking awesome
Looks like my next contest will be in July, in Ottawa.
Then provincials in September.
Nationals aren't posted yet, but I'm assuming they're in December like they were last year.
Goals for this year
600 squat
400 bench
600 pull
for a 1600 total
That would probably put me at a 470 raw squat, 500 pull, 300 ish bench.
I'm going to train the next month with no belt. High reps for the next 8 weeks. Goal is to put on a lot of size and get my work capacity up, shock the body and in turn bring my strength up.
Then about 12 weeks of mostly low rep training, getting under heavy weights. I should be around 230 by this time.
Then 4 weeks in gear to prepare for the competition. I'll probably start wearing a bench shirt more than 4 weeks out, since it will be my first time while I've already used a squat suit.
Or I could do this
4 weeks high rep
4 weeks low rep
4 weeks high rep
8 weeks low rep
3 weeks in gear
1 week off before comp
Both plans have their perks, not sure which one I want to follow.
Ah fuck it, I'll go with the last one. There's more variety there, I think I'd do better on it.
Still 4 weeks of high reps, everything beltless. After 12 weeks (2 high rep cycles and 1 low rep) I want to be at 230. I'll sit there for a few weeks, then I'll cut down to 220 so I can make the 100kg class.
Awesome.
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And major action will certainly make you feel a bit uncomfortable, which is absolutely fine. You've gotta get excited about feeling uncomfortable, you've gotta love feeling slightly uncomfortable, because you know that you're stepping outside the boundaries that you used to create.
Zach Even-Esh
I've made some huge mistakes, but they were necessary, because without them I wouldn't have learned anything.
-Dave Tate
100lbs out of a suit in a pull? never going to happen conventional.. I sure wish it did.
Spend much more time in the gear and drop the high rep stuff. If you actually ran a decent heavy training cycle starting next week, until the meet in the summer while using your gear (and getting a bench shirt) those numbers you posted are more then possible at that meet if things go well.
100lbs out of a suit in a pull? never going to happen conventional.. I sure wish it did.
Spend much more time in the gear and drop the high rep stuff. If you actually ran a decent heavy training cycle starting next week, until the meet in the summer while using your gear (and getting a bench shirt) those numbers you posted are more then possible at that meet if things go well.
Uh.. I got 96 out of the suit in the pull at the competition. Best raw pull was 405, I pulled 501 in the suit.
I'll be working with a couple guys on getting my bench up, and I feel that once my elbows are cleared (they seem to be good now) my bench will shoot up. The strength is there, I just need to have an injury free year. 300 is definitely possible.
I don't know Frankie, Trevor suggests getting into gear 3-4 weeks out and I'd have to agree. As long as I'm doing heavy lockouts, high box squats, rack pulls etc in that 8 week cycle before the meet prep I think I should be fine. I did get a lot out of my gear the first time around, 115 in the squat and almost 100 in the deadlift. I think as long as I focus on bringing my raw lifts up, and then spend time under super heavy weights in that 8 week cycle, I should be ok.
One thing I've learned so far is that my progress stalls with constant low rep training. If I switch it up a bit I think I'll do much better.
By high reps I just mean 6-10, nothing drastic.
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And major action will certainly make you feel a bit uncomfortable, which is absolutely fine. You've gotta get excited about feeling uncomfortable, you've gotta love feeling slightly uncomfortable, because you know that you're stepping outside the boundaries that you used to create.
Zach Even-Esh
I've made some huge mistakes, but they were necessary, because without them I wouldn't have learned anything.
-Dave Tate
You totally dropped the bar on that 227.5kg deadlift, that was definitely a "gift lift", you were VERY lucky to get that passed!
Ya I did, but I didn't drop it from as high as the video makes it look. One of the spotters said something to me as I was walking off stage about letting go of the bar.
I didn't know that was a rule.
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And major action will certainly make you feel a bit uncomfortable, which is absolutely fine. You've gotta get excited about feeling uncomfortable, you've gotta love feeling slightly uncomfortable, because you know that you're stepping outside the boundaries that you used to create.
Zach Even-Esh
I've made some huge mistakes, but they were necessary, because without them I wouldn't have learned anything.
-Dave Tate
sorry matt, you never got near 100lbs out of your suit in the deadlift. your raw is much higher then you think + im sure you had some contest adrenaline. 100lbs is unheard of even with a deadlift suit when pulling conventional. The most ive heard even claimed is Andy Bolton saying he gets around 70.
putting the gear on 3-4 weeks is oldschool. 5-10 years ago this was what everyone did. With the new gear you wont be great at it yet. Especially bench shirts imo, its so different then a raw lift.
Yep, your raw is likely 470+, the problem with your raw deads is entirely in your head I think.
Also, 100lbs out of a bench shirt, on a 300 bench, in your first year of using a shirt? That would be good carryover for somebody with 5 years experience, you can probably count on 20-30kgs out of the shirt in that first year.
I seriously doubt my raw deadlift is 470. I doubt this because the most I pulled before putting the suit on is 405. If it's a mental block I'm dealing with, sure, maybe I could get 420-430. But 470? No way.
You also have to factor in what the deadlift bar adds, as I usually use pretty stiff bars.
Last contest I went in with a 375 raw and pulled 396 on my third attempt. So let's say I get 20lbs out of the bar. That's still 75lbs out of the suit.
20lbs for the mental block bullshit, and I'm still getting 55 out of the suit.
Simon, my goals are exaggerated to give me more motivation. I don't get the same drive looking at low numbers. Stop ruining this for me.
Lastly, the only guy I have to train with is old school, so that's what I'm going to be. If I ever find a new group to train with and they're more new school, maybe I'll try it out. But I'm not going to fight this guy every step of the way. If he gives me advice I'm going to follow it, because he's in the weight room with me.
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And major action will certainly make you feel a bit uncomfortable, which is absolutely fine. You've gotta get excited about feeling uncomfortable, you've gotta love feeling slightly uncomfortable, because you know that you're stepping outside the boundaries that you used to create.
Zach Even-Esh
I've made some huge mistakes, but they were necessary, because without them I wouldn't have learned anything.
-Dave Tate
I'm looking to get a bar like what we used in the competition.
I think the bar used was Ivanko. What I've seen online is close to $1000. Trevor thinks he can get me a deal.
But I have one of the meet directors from last weekend offering to sell me a Q bar. He hasn't said how much yet.
Do you guys have any opinions on the Q bar?
I really just need something with more knurling than a standard bar so it doesn't slide all over the fucking place. As of now I don't really have an opinion on 'bar whip' or any of that shit. I move too slow for it to matter anyway.
I did a google search and people seem to like it.
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And major action will certainly make you feel a bit uncomfortable, which is absolutely fine. You've gotta get excited about feeling uncomfortable, you've gotta love feeling slightly uncomfortable, because you know that you're stepping outside the boundaries that you used to create.
Zach Even-Esh
I've made some huge mistakes, but they were necessary, because without them I wouldn't have learned anything.
-Dave Tate
You also have to factor in what the deadlift bar adds, as I usually use pretty stiff bars.
Last contest I went in with a 375 raw and pulled 396 on my third attempt. So let's say I get 20lbs out of the bar. That's still 75lbs out of the suit.
20lbs for the mental block bullshit, and I'm still getting 55 out of the suit.
You did an IPF meet yea? They don't use deadlift bars, same bar for all three lifts. The bar shouldn't give you anything in an IPF meet.
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Simon, my goals are exaggerated to give me more motivation. I don't get the same drive looking at low numbers. Stop ruining this for me.
Fair enough, but you know they are really on the limits of what's possible, and past what's probable.
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Lastly, the only guy I have to train with is old school, so that's what I'm going to be. If I ever find a new group to train with and they're more new school, maybe I'll try it out. But I'm not going to fight this guy every step of the way. If he gives me advice I'm going to follow it, because he's in the weight room with me.
Hey, nothing wrong with old school! Although this guys opinions seem a bit weird lol But yeah, I reckon stick with this dude, atleast at first.
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I'm looking to get a bar like what we used in the competition.
I think the bar used was Ivanko. What I've seen online is close to $1000. Trevor thinks he can get me a deal.
But I have one of the meet directors from last weekend offering to sell me a Q bar. He hasn't said how much yet.
Do you guys have any opinions on the Q bar?
I really just need something with more knurling than a standard bar so it doesn't slide all over the fucking place. As of now I don't really have an opinion on 'bar whip' or any of that shit. I move too slow for it to matter anyway.
I did a google search and people seem to like it.
I've heard ivanko bars are shit for deadlifting, the position of the knurling is a bit different to eleiko bars, and apparently rubs along the thighs when locking out, making it pretty tough - this could just be the older bars though, so double check that.
Oh ya, I forgot it's the same bar for all three lifts. Nevermind what I said then.
I don't care about deadlifting, I want a bar that's good for squatting. The bar I used last weekend had knurling in all the right places, it really hugged my back and didn't slide at all. The bars in my gym (both weight rooms at the school) have very large smooth areas, and they're right where the bar should be grabbing onto my back, so it slides unless I really pull it into my back.
A good squat bar will be like a friggin miracle for my training and for my elbow health I think.
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And major action will certainly make you feel a bit uncomfortable, which is absolutely fine. You've gotta get excited about feeling uncomfortable, you've gotta love feeling slightly uncomfortable, because you know that you're stepping outside the boundaries that you used to create.
Zach Even-Esh
I've made some huge mistakes, but they were necessary, because without them I wouldn't have learned anything.
-Dave Tate
Although the IPF bar isn't a specific deadlift bar, it will still add pounds over a generic gym bar. My old gym had an ivanko bar that is IPF approved (they use a few different bars), and it added a good 20-30lbs to my pull from a standard bar. A deadlift specific bar adds another 10 or so on top of that.
they bend, but not 'whip' up to help with the pull. Shit bars are very difficult to pull with.
the bar i train with (For all lifts) in training weighs 50lbs (22.5kg) and does not bend. The old gym owner was an 800+lbs puller who belt his share of bars and got these custom made like 25 years ago.. They kick ass. With 800lbs of bar weight, the bar is still pretty much straight. Its also slightly thicker then a regular bar which I really like.
When I leave this gym i may try buy one of these bars from them (they have two) as nobody but me knows the difference I think.
Yep, your raw is likely 470+, the problem with your raw deads is entirely in your head I think.
i totally agree. Your pull is all mental. I'll bet if you take a raw lift now, you'd have a huge pr, because psychologically, you know you can pull 500 now, but it's not like your hamstring strength magically got that much better (90lbs better) over a period of a few weeks.
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as for bars, look into getting a pendlay power bar. Or, rippetoe has a bar out that i've used, which is very nice. We use it for O-lifting, but i believe it's marketed as being able to be used for squats and deadlifts. Very nice knurling. Not real sharp like cheap bars have. I think it would be good for the main lifts, especially given the fact that it has spinning collars (good for elbow/shoulder health).
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