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Old 11-24-2008, 10:04 PM   #1651 (permalink)
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I'm looking for more than 20-30 kg

I'm wondering if I shouldn't have ordered a 44 instead of a 42 though.

Frankie, is your suit still hard to get on?
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:11 PM   #1652 (permalink)
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By the way, I found a company to do the shirts for $8/shirt. No charges on top they're saying.

50 shirts = 400
If we sell every shirt for $20, which is our goal, that's $1000, $600 profit.
Pretty solid.

150 people will be at the conference. Plus, Trevor, who's running the conference, used the evolution logo (the back of our shirt) on pretty much every sign and poster for the conference because he liked it so much. So it's going to be all over the place, then people see it on our shirts. We should sell 50 no problem.
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I'm looking for more than 20-30 kg

I'm wondering if I shouldn't have ordered a 44 instead of a 42 though.

Frankie, is your suit still hard to get on?
Hrmm actually you're probably right. I get about 60kg with suit, wraps and belt. Not sure of what does what, but I'm guessing 5kg belt, 35kg suit, 20kg wraps, or something like that.

42 is a good size for a 110kglifter imo, so you went with a pretty safe size.
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when i used my suit at 198 it took like 5 minutes to get one. At 230 it took a good 15 minutes. Now at 245 it will take me the better part of an hour. My tight single ply takes around 20 minutes to get on.

Tight suits + shirts are really a pain in the ass to train in. Training sessions with full gear are always over 3 hours. Its worth it to move the big weight though.
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Old 11-25-2008, 05:53 AM   #1655 (permalink)
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my metal takes a good 30-45 minutes to get on
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I tried getting it on again before bed last night. I got it inches above my knee, higher than the first two times I tried. This is without plastic bags or anything. So I guess if I use those I might be ok.
Even though I couldn't get it all the way up I walked around in it a bit to try and stretch it out.

If it goes on, it's gonna be sweeeeet.
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Sounds like a good size. It will go on.

Also, you will get much better, more efficient and faster at putting on your suit after a while. You'll learn some tricks to getting it on quicker as you go. I mean like 10x faster lol!
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Old 11-25-2008, 11:48 AM   #1658 (permalink)
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I'll try putting it on once or twice a day. I'm not using it in training until Wednesday next week, so I have time to stretch it out.
This just means I can't put on any weight for a while.


bench accessory work - Nov 24

1234s - 185 - 6 reps from the chest, three from the one board, two from the two board, 1 each from the three and four board
1234s - 195 - triple, double, single single single

pin press - started at a setting where upper arm was parallel to the floor
245x3x2

db bench press
15x40, 20, 35

db curls
60x3 - cheated
30 x a bunch

hanging leg raise
decline sit ups
pulley holds
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And this was the last workout before testing my squat/bench on Friday.
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The 1234s are hard. So hard I had to bold the word hard. By the end of the set, your tris are fried. I like them.

I just wrote up my training for up until the contest. I'll post it in a bit.

Me and Brent went to the t-shirt place this morning. We decided on 70 shirts instead of 50. There will be 150 people at the conference, and our logo is being used as the conference logo, so I don't see why people wouldn't buy a shirt as a momento or just a good training shirt, even though it doesn't say anything about the conference on the shirt.
Anyway. We had to put a lot of our own money down for this, so I'll be in a state of mild panic until I see how it goes this weekend.
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lol I can send you American money
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Old 11-25-2008, 01:30 PM   #1661 (permalink)
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Check out the design we're using here. The figures on the bottom of the picture will be on the back of the shirt (everything under the words "Strength & Conditioning" will be on the back).

You asked for a squatter but this guy is doing a split jerk, that's why I want you to take another look and make sure you like the design.

I won't have them until Friday anyway.
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ya dude thats still a sick design
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Thanks. I'll let you know what's going on with them on Monday.



I've slept through my alarm every day this week. Last night I went to bed at 12, my alarm was set for 7 (and was set pretty loud too) and I didn't wake up until almost 11.
Maybe it's winter, my body is trying to go into hibernation.
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maybe you're fucking lazy, and the powerlifting laziness is rubbing off on you.

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I used to have to alternate alarm clocks every few weeks. I get used to the sound.

Now, I use my phone and just change the annoying song every few weeks.
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I use the radio, so it's always a different sound.
Good idea though.
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light work - November 26

squats
bar x 8 x a bunch

baseball holds
20x a few laps around the equipment
25x a few laps
30x a lap

goodmornings
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I'm testing my squat tomorrow or Friday, so I just wanted to go in and do something to get some blood flowing.
Trevor wants me to get wraps, he says you should train in wraps before training in a suit. So I guess I'm getting wraps.
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wraps are really easy to learn, dont worry about it. They suck because if they are really tight they hurt like a bitch, but you wont have to change your technique or anything really. I like the APT stuff.. its very well priced and is good quality. Convicts are their strongest wrap. I have 3 pairs of strangulators (I like one for each attempt, less work at a meet.. but this is optional). They are also a good wrap. Make sure you get 2m if you are doing ipf meets as 2.5m is not legal.
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If you complain about tight wraps hurting, your worse than a girl Frank. I train with a girl that can take it hahahahhaha. Whenever we have random dudes come in, my coach always says "let me show you what knee wraps feel like" and wraps the poor bastard as hard as he can We've had 220lbs guys almost crying!

Seriously though, it's nothing, you get used to it after like, being wrapped tight twice lol.
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the guy who tied my knee wraps last contest is an 800+lbs presser, that combined with the help of another guy who totals almost 1200kg = one tight ass wrap haha.

all my blood vessels blow and after a squat the skin around my knees is bleeding. my strangulators are full of blood stains now. No way you could walk a weight out with wraps this tight mind you. would take a good 400-500lbs to hit depth i imagine.
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I'm not going to order them because I can't afford the shipping/customs cost, I'm just going to go to a store down the street from my school, and get these.

They won't be the best I'm sure, but, whatever. I'll get some good ones when I can afford them.
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wouldn't bother with those. would go without instead. They wont give you really anything.. and are not really cheap.

dont worry about knee wraps, learn the suit, thats the hard part. get 3 or so spotters and a few good squatters yelling verbal ques and just do countless sets until you figure the thing out, may take a few sessions of this. this is where a pl group is essential as a regular person would not understand that on your 20th set of squats you are finally going to get everything right haha.
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I can't just ignore Trevor though, he seems pretty set on me having wraps (when I told him I can't afford to order some, he said he'll buy them for me; when I said there are guys who squat without wraps, he said they're stupid). They're the same price as anything I'll find online, but 1)I won't have to wait for them to be shipped, and 2)I won't have to pay customs charges. It was $30 to get the suit the other day. Besides it was him who suggested buying the wraps from that store so it'll make him happy if nothing else.

I'd rather squat without wraps anyway, so I'm not too worried about the quality of what I do use.
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tell that to matt kroc who squats 1000+ no wraps haha.

Is this guy even a good powerlifter? soon of his ideas seem a little different.
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Does Matt Kroc squat without wraps at all his meets too? No way I'd be squatting with 20kgs less support LOL But I guess in multi-ply with their slow ass high squats, you guys might not get as much from wraps, but then again, you do get longer wraps!!!

Lol, aren't those the "red devils" that they used in the 80's? I heard they are soooo shit lol. I wouldn't bother either, just wait until you can afford to get some good wraps(e.g. THP's, convicts).

Squatting without wraps because you can't afford them isn't stupid. And Frank's right, you don't have to learn wraps, pretty much makes no difference other than you squat more. You can drop faster with wraps to get more rebound though.
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I think he's thinking of it from an injury prevention standpoint.

I saw an interview with Matt Kroc where he was asked why he doesn't wear wraps, and he answers "because I don't need them".

Trev held a record for years, it's only gone now because that federation reset their records (apparently they do this every so many years). His squat was somewhere in the 600s I think. This was 1-2 decades ago.
He definitely doesn't think the same way we do, but his ways work. Remember he wrote that program for me a while ago? Brought my squat from just over 300 to 350 in a matter of a few months.
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and yes kroc doesn't use them at meets. I bet they just mess up his form or something. The wider your stance gets and less your knees travel forward - the less the help i feel.
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Lol, if you want injury prevention, get knee sleeves(even MORE expensive), wraps are designed to make you squat more.

So Matt Kroc must think he gets 0kg carryover from wraps? Weird, I'd wear them even if I got 2.5kg carryover.
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and yes kroc doesn't use them at meets. I bet they just mess up his form or something. The wider your stance gets and less your knees travel forward - the less the help i feel.
Yeah I can see how that works, but still as you said, you don't need to learn wraps, so I doubt they mess up his form.

So he should atleast be getting 5lbs out of tight wraps, don't see why he wouldn't want to squat a bit more!
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