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Old 10-22-2008, 11:27 PM   #1411 (permalink)
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No ammonia? you call yourself a powerlifter...

my gym stocks it, beside every squat rack/monolift there is a station with chalk/baby powder and ammonia. Most meets ive been to supply it too.. thats nice of them.

I actually like to listen to mellower music while lifting.. but someone always puts in something heavier- lamb of god is this months pick ive been hearing.
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:22 AM   #1412 (permalink)
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I listen to disturbed and pretty much only disturbed while I train. Just have a list my mp3 player runs through. It works like a fucking magic pill to get me in the mood to lift heavy, swear it.
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:01 AM   #1413 (permalink)
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Thanks dmw. Thanks LD, I think.
I think a lot of the general public is misinformed about strength sports and figure they're just a bunch of meatheads and steroid users. The general public respects "conditioning" and marathon running more than getting big or strong.

Conditioning sounds healthy and noble. So, having the word "conditioning" in the title could help with support from faculty and staff, down the road. I don't know if your friend did that on purpose.

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Old 10-23-2008, 01:39 AM   #1414 (permalink)
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lol LD...


man, I hate disturbed. This cant end well.

if im going to listen to anything heavy its going to be some thrash metal.. slayer, anthrax, testament, etc
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:34 PM   #1415 (permalink)
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man, I hate disturbed.
If you hate Disturbed you are teh stupid.

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Old 10-23-2008, 02:47 PM   #1416 (permalink)
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My 14 year old sister likes disturbed. She listens to it on mtv.
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My 14 year old sister likes disturbed. She listens to it on mtv.
My 8 year old niece wears green chuck taylors.
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Old 10-23-2008, 05:05 PM   #1418 (permalink)
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send me her # in 10 years.
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send me her # in 10 years.
kilograms or pounds?
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Disturbed is awesome for training. What does Frank know, it's not like he lifts more than me...

These are fast.
YouTube - Speed Squat
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kilograms or pounds?
kilos.. what are you, american?
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those squats are fast..

Im guilty of going to heavy alot of my speed days i think. If my squat progress stalls ill play around with this first.
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Disturbed is awesome for training. What does Frank know, it's not like he lifts more than me...
I also get tired of these weak know-it-alls with their silly training advice. When Frank can outsquat my mid 300s I'll listen to him.
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:06 AM   #1426 (permalink)
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Light ish day today. Sunday will be just box squats and some back work, to cut down the volume. Hopefully after this I'll be back and ready to go.

bench 2 - Oct 24

speed bench - purple bands
135x3x6

close grip press - pinky just inside rings
185x8
205x4
185x7

reverse flyes
25 x a bunch

bb curls
105x4 x a few


Then some mobility work/static stretching because Brent made me do it.
My forearms hurt like a bitch all throughout this. All the way down the pinky side of the forearm.
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Then some mobility work/static stretching because Brent made me do it.
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:43 AM   #1428 (permalink)
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Ya. I actually felt good after, so it was good. He wants to start doing some soft tissue work as well, I think he's trying to get Trevor (who is in charge of the good weight room) to order some of those sticks. So that will be good as well.
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seriously, just go and get some PVC if you use foam roller for a month or so, your tissue quality will be good enough where you won't really feel anything from a foam roller. I pretty much use PVC on all my lower body stuff now (IT band, quads, hamstrings, groin (ouch), etc). Let me know how the stick works if you get it.
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Good low volume session today. I'm coming back, I can feel it.

squat 2 - Oct 26

box squat
295x2
305x2x4-5 - wasn't actually counting

wide grip bentover row
185x6,8,6

chin up
+30 x4,5,4+3bw

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Box squats are feeling good. I'm sitting back pretty well, my shins are perpendicular or a tiny bit forward at worst. This will get better as I keep doing them and keep working on my mobility, I'm sure.

Tomorrow is our first training session with the club. Every Monday, Wednesday and Friday from here out.

Today Brent front squatted 275x5. Pretty sweet.
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We might go get some pvc to make a contraption for vertical jumps (light, so it'll just topple over if you miss a height = no chance of landing on a box and breaking something) so maybe we can just use the leftovers.
Isn't the point of the stick that the middle is free rolling, though? Or am I wrong?
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We might go get some pvc to make a contraption for vertical jumps (light, so it'll just topple over if you miss a height = no chance of landing on a box and breaking something) so maybe we can just use the leftovers.
Isn't the point of the stick that the middle is free rolling, though? Or am I wrong?
yea it is. I'm not real sure since i haven't used one yet, but i'd imagine you can't get the leverage you can w/ your bw on a pvc pipe though. You're just using the amount of pressure you can apply yourself.
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Oh, I see. I thought you use the pvc like you would use the stick, but you use it like a foam roller.
I understand. Ya, we could do that. Good idea.
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Looking to change my program up a bit. Thinking of squat work now. This is entirely focused on making a 400 squat by the end of November.
High box, close stance squats to get used to heavy weights and to hit my quads a bit.
Lots of parallel box squats and RDL on the other day for the PC.
I use my quads a lot in the free squat, hence the quad work. I figure that work, plus parallel box squats with better form, plus spending a few weeks under heavier weight, ought to bring my squat up.

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high box squat x3
quad dom lift - front squat/step up/split squat x6
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Do you have bands? i forget..

I think reverse band work (either on paralell box or free). Will help more then high box squats, same overload at the top but your form wont change much, if at all.
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I think reverse band work (either on paralell box or free). Will help more then high box squats, same overload at the top but your form wont change much, if at all.
yes, but is he wearing a suit? if not, then reverse bands wouldn't help anymore than walkouts with the weight in getting used to the weight at the top.
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no way... very different.

Reverse bands = a good portion of the movement is overloaded. If you are slow, you wont get make it to the top.

Walkout = get used to heavy weights on your back. who knows if you would even start the squat decent correctly..

I dont see what gear has to do with it. The main goal is to force yourself to learn how to be fast at the bottom so you can power through to the top. Overloading the top is just added benefit.

got to remember, the westside methods where originally made for raw lifters. you dont overload the top to train the top. You overload the top to force good speed from the bottom.
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no way... very different.

Reverse bands = a good portion of the movement is overloaded. If you are slow, you wont get make it to the top.

Walkout = get used to heavy weights on your back. who knows if you would even start the squat decent correctly..

I dont see what gear has to do with it. The main goal is to force yourself to learn how to be fast at the bottom so you can power through to the top. Overloading the top is just added benefit.

got to remember, the westside methods where originally made for raw lifters. you dont overload the top to train the top. You overload the top to force good speed from the bottom.
westside methods designed for raw lifters? where did you get that?

gear has everything to do with it, because reverse bands help at the bottom of the lift, similar to where gear helps out of the bottom.
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Louie mentions it many times in his dvds, but just look of when it started to get more popular. 10 years ago people where training westside, and there was pretty much no gear.

You do band work to improve speed at the bottom of the lift so your speed carries you through to the top.

same reason you do speed bench against bands if your weakness is off your chest. Improve speed and you can 'blast through' your sticking points.
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I'm of the opinion that westside actually works better for the raw lifter. With modern gear they have had to change it up greatly at the westside gym it seems to keep up.
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