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Old 03-09-2008, 12:51 PM   #421 (permalink)
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How do you hit 405x2 a week or two ago, and then only double 315? You should be hitting 315x8-10. Keep up your progression!

Or was it b/c you did the gay squatting before pulling thing?
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Old 03-09-2008, 02:06 PM   #422 (permalink)
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I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but in case you're being serious:
I wrote in the comments that the deads felt heavy that day, and I stopped them to do front squats instead.

I have a video of the 365, I'll post it in a few minutes. My form is terrible on it, the 415x2 that I had planned to do would've killed me. If I even got it.

315x2 squat was a big PR for me, mentally. It was not gay. It was bad ass.
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Old 03-09-2008, 03:28 PM   #423 (permalink)
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So I was going to order some shirts from elite. Two sweaters and three tshirts came to 76 dollars.
I'm thinking 'ok, that's actually pretty good'
Then I calculate shipping.
65 dollars for shipping.

That's fucking ridiculous!

Then I realized, if I change the shipping method to standard, it's only 13 dollars. I can live with that.




I can't find my favourite shirt. The one with the little dude squatting on the front, and the circle logo on the back. They have a sweater with that on it, but no t-shirt. Damn.
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Old 03-09-2008, 03:34 PM   #424 (permalink)
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ill sell you mine for $50
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Old 03-09-2008, 04:18 PM   #425 (permalink)
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Will it give me superpowers, so I can lift more than you?

If so, you have yourself a deal.
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Old 03-09-2008, 04:26 PM   #426 (permalink)
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That's my favorite one, too. When it existed, the description said that it was the most popular shirt ever and Jim's favorite. and, now it's gone.
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Old 03-09-2008, 06:05 PM   #427 (permalink)
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you can enter a regional comp.. send them an email for details.

the basics of the feds;
apf/wpc/gpc = squats to(above) parallel and a monolift. + double ply gear + briefs + they use deadlift bars + no drug testing
ipf/uspl = squats under parallel by a few inches + walked out + tons of rules. + single ply gear only + no briefs + normal bars + head on the bench when you bench press + drug testing
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Old 03-09-2008, 06:14 PM   #428 (permalink)
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Simon, have you ever watched a gpc/wpo meet? ive never seen a squat above paralell allowed, sure there are some vids on youtube or whatever, but thats very rarely the case.

IPF =
-bans lifters who compete in other federations.
-dont follow their own rule book in regaurds to squat depth
-change their rules about head on bench press every month (right now, its: head can be off bench on the decent of the bar, only).
-make up dumb rules like : 50% of your ass must be on the bench, how can you even measure this?

There is a reason why 90% of the good lifters dont lift in the ipf.. and it has nothing to do with drug tests
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Old 03-09-2008, 07:08 PM   #429 (permalink)
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The one in July is Ontario Powerlifting Association.
I think I'll enter this one, if any. Nice road trip to Canada's capital. Bonus.

Here's the video I promised earlier.
YouTube - deadlift - back rounding
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Old 03-09-2008, 10:11 PM   #430 (permalink)
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Wow, your deadlift form sucks. Rounded back, high hips, and you're pretty much stiff leg it. Work on form homo!
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Old 03-09-2008, 10:23 PM   #431 (permalink)
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dude, work on the deadlift form. No one's gonna have perfect form on a max pull, but you shouldn't be starting off the pull with stiff legs and a rounded back.

And, I still don't get why you pull after (not as) heavy (as me) squatting?
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Old 03-09-2008, 10:27 PM   #432 (permalink)
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deadlifts after squats are great imo.. thats what you got to do in a contest so you better be ready for it.
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Old 03-09-2008, 10:42 PM   #433 (permalink)
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dude, work on the deadlift form. No one's gonna have perfect form on a max pull, but you shouldn't be starting off the pull with stiff legs and a rounded back.

And, I still don't get why you pull after (not as) heavy (as me) squatting?
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Simon, have you ever watched a gpc/wpo meet? ive never seen a squat above paralell allowed, sure there are some vids on youtube or whatever, but thats very rarely the case.

IPF =
-bans lifters who compete in other federations.
-dont follow their own rule book in regaurds to squat depth
-change their rules about head on bench press every month (right now, its: head can be off bench on the decent of the bar, only).
-make up dumb rules like : 50% of your ass must be on the bench, how can you even measure this?
The banning of lifters who compete in other feds is pretty gay, Australia's best Bench Presser is due for a ban because he competed last weekend, pretty gay, but he knew about it.

Squat depth has been pretty good from what I've seen, nly BS depths in WPC comp vids haha.

In Powerlifting Australia(IPF) anyway, the head always has to be on the bench, and it as always been like this, and won't change anytime soon.

Yeah the 50% thing I dunno about that, but I'll ask some people about it.
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There is a reason why 90% of the good lifters dont lift in the ipf.. and it has nothing to do with drug tests
Sure...

shit g2g, I'll post more later haha
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Old 03-09-2008, 10:56 PM   #434 (permalink)
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dude...

you need to fix your form, like you already know. Stop looking at the ground.

and get fired up before your lifts! You walk slow to the bar, and casually grab it. Whenever i'm attempting a weight that's heavy for me, my adrenaline starts pumping, and my heart rate goes up. I bet if you got angry with that weight, it would have been easy.

i don't really like pulls after squats. Yea you get that in competition, but the point is to get stronger in the gym. If you're not able to pull well in the gym, how well are you going to pull in the competition? If you build up your pulls on another day and get strong in them, it's going to be that much easier. Plus, matthew's not really training for a competition YET. so, until he is, he should build up the squat and the pull in the most efficient manner he can, imo.
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:38 AM   #435 (permalink)
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I agree, and since you'll likely do a bit more volume in your training than in a meet, squat and deadlift in different days might suit you better.
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Old 03-10-2008, 05:17 AM   #436 (permalink)
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I pull fine after heavy squats, it was just this one day.
Last week I hit a PR of 405x2 after squatting heavy. Actually, the squats felt heavy last week, and my pull was good. This week my squats were good and my pull felt heavy.

I know my form was bad in that video. I said that that's why I called it. I don't normally pull that horribly.
I'm planning to pull heavy on Tuesday with other guy. Probably after the box squats, but we'll see. Maybe I won't do as many sets of box squats. I'll take another video then if I can.
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