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Old 03-05-2008, 11:02 PM   #391 (permalink)
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haha

that would be funny.
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Old 03-05-2008, 11:25 PM   #392 (permalink)
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screw the velcro belt. get a real powerbelt from inzer or elitefts 10mm or 13mm (i prefer single prong).

there is actually alot of technique to using a belt correctly for the sq/dl which many people dont account for which i dont feel a velcro belt will help much with.

I am waiting for a inzer 13mm single prong right now, my last belt which got lost was a inzer 10mm single prong and the thing was great. I *think* the 13mm was about 95usd with shipping, not sure though, my gf bought it.
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The guys I train wit all use the inzer 13mm lever belt, they say the prongs are annoying to use, and can bruise you lol. I'll probably get an inzer 13mm lever too.
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Old 03-06-2008, 01:06 AM   #394 (permalink)
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the problem with the lever belt is that they are hard to adjust and many people (me included) like the belt at different tightness for different things. for me, squats are looser while deads it is tighter.
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yea, like i said, i'd get an inzer belt, and a nylon one. You can try them out and see which ones you like best from that. We can all tell you which ones work the best for us, but it's what you like best. Obviously, some people like the nylon ones, some like lever, some like double pronged (i don't know why?), 13mm, 10mm.

Plus, the nylon ones are cheap, so if you don't like it, you only waisted 20 bucks. I have a 13mm inzer red belt. You can get the economy one for 40 bucks from inzer
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I don't want to spend much on it, I don't even want a belt all that much. I just figured it would be good to have once in a while. Specifically for deads/RDLs.

Because I don't want to spend much and don't really even want to wear one, I think the valeo or whatever belt is the best option.
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I don't know how to use a leather belt properly, I've tried with rack pulls and it added exactly zero pounds.
I think the nylon one would be easier to learn.
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just practice with it. I'm pretty sure you know what your supposed to do anyway, wear it tight, push against it when you take a big breath, and your core is tighter, stronger, its easier to keep your back arched/neuttral, and you get a few more pounds on your lifts! tada!

Although thats the theory, this coming forma guy who has done a total of 6 squat reps with a belt on, ever.... hah, But you allready knew all that anyway...
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OH2 - March 7

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67kg (147.4lbs)x3,4,2,1 - thought it weighed more than this. only 4 lbs above last week

bentover row
90kg (198lbs) x6x3

rack chin
bwx14
40x8,6

tate press
50x7,6,5,6

seated row
110x6x4



The guy I was lifting with today was pulling and worked up to a triple at 506 ish.
I was impressed.
He tried to talk me into pulling as well, I refused because I'm squatting/pulling heavy tomorrow.
Next time I'm just going to pull when he tells me to pull haha

What would you guys do? Pull today, then squat tomorrow? Pull today, then squat on sunday? Stuck to your plan?
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Taken from a discussion I started in my school's facebook network, about the new weight room being open for a trial period.





David wrote 3 hours ago.
40 bucks for only 6 weeks?

not worth it


Alexander wrote about an hour ago.
Yeah that's expensive.
At least the other gym is free.
I also saw that it's 10 bucks for a drop in day.



You wrote10 minutes ago.
It's $5 for a day pass, as far as I know.

The other gym doesn't have four olympic platforms and four sets of bumper plates. Or a ghr bench. Or plyo boxes. Or dumbbells that go up to 140. Or a sprint trainer. Or these kick ass hydraulic things that I wouldn't use but would definitely come in handy for other people. Or a chalk station. Or kettlebells. Or decent barbells. Or hurdles. Or an agility ladder. Or a tire for flipping (400lb tire coming soon). Or a bunch of other things I can't even remember.

It does have ten different sizes of 45lb plates (you'd know how much of a pain in the ass that is if you ever deadlifted before), bars that have no knurling on them (again, if you ever deadlifted before. also, you'll probably have to google "knurling"), a squat rack that feels like it's going to fall on top of me when I rack the bar (I guess you have to squat to know the disadvantages of this. don't worry, you can google "squat" too), dumbbells that go up to 80, and a smith machine that doubles as a coat rack.

Now, I'm going to go ahead and assume that you don't know what an olympic platform, plyo box, ghr bench, kettlebell or chalk station is. Or how anyone could possibly lift a 140lb dumbbell, or flip a 400lb tire.

In that case, yes, $40 is probably too much for you to spend on a membership. You can continue not using your free membership in the other gym. I've never seen either of you there.
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OH2 - March 7

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67kg (147.4lbs)x3,4,2,1 - thought it weighed more than this. only 4 lbs above last week

bentover row
90kg (198lbs) x6x3

rack chin
bwx14
40x8,6

tate press
50x7,6,5,6

seated row
110x6x4




The guy I was lifting with today was pulling and worked up to a triple at 506 ish.
I was impressed.
He tried to talk me into pulling as well, I refused because I'm squatting/pulling heavy tomorrow.
Next time I'm just going to pull when he tells me to pull haha

What would you guys do? Pull today, then squat tomorrow? Pull today, then squat on sunday? Stuck to your plan?
Dude, you're only cable seated rowing 110!!!!! WHAT????? I THOUGHT YOU CARED ABOUT SEATED ROWS!!!!!!!! OH NOES!!!
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why is it 40 bucks/6 weeks? is there another membership option?
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Oh come on, you guys didn't think that was funny?

It's a trial period, the gym is only open for six weeks. They're deciding if it's worth keeping it open to the whole school or not.

Simon, that's 110lbs per handle. I was using two single handles.
At least I think it's per handle, that's the only thing I can figure. It's heavy dude.
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He tried to talk me into pulling as well, I refused because I'm squatting/pulling heavy tomorrow.

What would you guys do? Pull today, then squat tomorrow? Pull today, then squat on sunday? Stick to your plan?
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anyway it could stay closed to the whole school, but open to the pl club? that would b ideal i would think.
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If it doesn't make profit the people that head up the police foundations program want to take half the equipment out (the platforms/dumbbells and some other things) and they want to put an obstacle course in that space.
Part of the test to become a police officer here is to complete a timed obstacle course, so in the college programs they train the students on the obstacle course. They'll probably keep the equipment that they take out, but it'll be moved to a room somewhere else in the school. Or they may get rid of it, who knows.

The "club" so far is only four people. Only two (me and one other guy) showed up to train yesterday. I doubt they'd keep it open for us.



Is the question I asked above your post a stupid question, and I just haven't realized it? No one's answering.
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ps I'm sorry guys, there's probably a bit of anger coming through my posts. I had a really bad week last week, can't get back into my usual good mood.

Don't take it personally.
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you need to compromise and lift with him. it's pretty stupid if you don't train with someone who is motivated and can motivate you to stick to your plan. Plans are not that important.
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Thanks alco.


squat/deadlift - March 8

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135x5x2
225x4x2
275x2x2
315x2,2,1

deadlift
315x2x2
365x1

front squats
160x3
180x3
200x2,1,2



Wasn't feeling right pulling today, so I stopped. The 315 felt really heavy, and the 365 was a struggle to get up. Did some front squats instead. They're not really similar at all, but I felt like doing them, so I did.

Happy I finally got 315 for more than a single. I probably could've grinded out a third rep in that first set, but then I definitely wouldn't have been able to get a double in the second set, and I wouldn't have moved it at all in the third set. So I'm happy with two doubles.

I think the 10x3 box squats really helped, even though I've only done it once so far.
The guy from yesterday (his name is Doug) wants me to pull with him on Tuesday. I can move my wednesday (10x3 box squats, RDL) to tuesday, and nix the RDL to pull heavy instead.
He's the kind of guy that doesn't follow a specific plan. He has a general idea of what he wants to do, but once he's in the gym he just does whatever he feels like doing/feels strong in at the time. I have a feeling that training with him, I'll become like this too. Which is good, I'm sure I'll make more progress that way. It's just the transition, from being an avid planner to 'going with the flow', it's harder than you'd think. Maybe it's just me.
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oh ya,
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It's a trial period, the gym is only open for six weeks. They're deciding if it's worth keeping it open to the whole school or not.

Simon, that's 110lbs per handle. I was using two single handles.
At least I think it's per handle, that's the only thing I can figure. It's heavy dude.
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Training partners can be a great thing.

Just try to make sure they are committed as you are or it can be quite a pain. ive never trained with someone who I didn't learn anything from.

Matthew, i think this is what you need to do,

find a PL meet sometime this summer, set solid goals and crush them at the meet. I found actually training with a specific goal in mind has given me much more progress. When I'm supposed to hit one last set of deadlifts after i have just about past out from the previous set and im winded as shit, i can imagine pulling that big weight (in my mind its 650..) and ill make myself do that last set.

dont worry about gear and shit like that (exception being a belt imo) and just go smash some weight.


i rarely have a plan when going to the gym know my first movement and depending on how im feeling after that i can decide the rest. if im feeling good, more heavy weights, if im feeling shitty im doing 10+ reps. This system works for me.
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Training partners can be a great thing.

Just try to make sure they are committed as you are or it can be quite a pain. ive never trained with someone who I didn't learn anything from.

Matthew, i think this is what you need to do,

find a PL meet sometime this summer, set solid goals and crush them at the meet. I found actually training with a specific goal in mind has given me much more progress. When I'm supposed to hit one last set of deadlifts after i have just about past out from the previous set and im winded as shit, i can imagine pulling that big weight (in my mind its 650..) and ill make myself do that last set.

dont worry about gear and shit like that (exception being a belt imo) and just go smash some weight.


i rarely have a plan when going to the gym know my first movement and depending on how im feeling after that i can decide the rest. if im feeling good, more heavy weights, if im feeling shitty im doing 10+ reps. This system works for me.
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find a PL meet sometime this summer, set solid goals and crush them at the meet.
See? even Frank says so(so do it). Just compete this summer, ya pussy! I am!(although it will be winter here, YEAH!)
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Just try to make sure they are committed as you are or it can be quite a pain. ive never trained with someone who I didn't learn anything from.

Matthew, i think this is what you need to do,

find a PL meet sometime this summer, set solid goals and crush them at the meet. I found actually training with a specific goal in mind has given me much more progress. When I'm supposed to hit one last set of deadlifts after i have just about past out from the previous set and im winded as shit, i can imagine pulling that big weight (in my mind its 650..) and ill make myself do that last set.

dont worry about gear and shit like that (exception being a belt imo) and just go smash some weight.


i rarely have a plan when going to the gym know my first movement and depending on how im feeling after that i can decide the rest. if im feeling good, more heavy weights, if im feeling shitty im doing 10+ reps. This system works for me.
i totally agree w/ this.

the comp im doing this july made me want to improve my overhead. If i hadn't entered, or been asked to, then i probably wouldn't have gone to the oly gym to work on my weakness (slowness). And my overhead and speed would not be going up as well as it has.
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I can't find anything happening in my area after next month.
And I'm definitely not going to compete next month.

June/July would be good.

Most of what I've found so far is in the states. But it all says regional or national, doesn't that mean you have to be from that area? If not I'd be up for a road trip.

Actually there's a push/pull in Ontario on June 7 (but it says pending), it's only a few hours drive from me. It's with the OPA (Ontario Powerlifting Association).
Here's the listing (scroll all the way down).
Too bad it's a push/pull though, it's my squat I want to bring up right now.
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Just do any three-lift competition, it won't matter for your first competition - I'm sure you can find one at the right time.

What fed did you plan on competing in long term anyway? I'm IPF(it's either IPF or WPC here)
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There's one in Ottawa in July. It's two hours more driving each way, I think.
The listing is on the same page I linked to in my last post.

I don't know what fed I want to compete in Simon. I don't know anything about any of them. I want to compete raw as long as I can, so a 100% raw fed would be good. There's one called 100% raw, but as far as I can tell from their site, it's only in the US.

I haven't looked into feds at all until this morning. I had to google what ages for the "junior" division are. ha
I'll ask around a bit and find out.
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you can enter a regional comp.. send them an email for details.

the basics of the feds;
apf/wpc/gpc = squats to paralell and a monlift.
ipf/uspl = squats under paralell by a few inches + walked out + tons of rules.
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