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Old 03-26-2008, 07:38 PM   #301 (permalink)
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You're form doesn't look too bad there. A couple of things though:
-You extend the knees before your hips, so you straighten your legs first, and then end up pretty much stiff legging it. Think "chest up" when pulling.
-You could keep your back arched a little more, although this wasn't too bad

How much weight is that?
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You're form doesn't look too bad there. A couple of things though:
-You extend the knees before your hips, so you straighten your legs first, and then end up pretty much stiff legging it. Think "chest up" when pulling.
-You could keep your back arched a little more, although this wasn't too bad

How much weight is that?
That was 405 lb. I'm glad I taped it because that stuff is way easier to see when you're not doing it!

I think you're right, if I keep the chest higher it should be good. The one in the video was at the end of the workout, and that may have been a factor with form laxing.
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Old 03-26-2008, 10:02 PM   #303 (permalink)
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bannana

cofee w/ cream and sugar (forgot to post this little item the past couple of days. And, I ate a bannana in the car yesterday I forgot to post)

oatmeal (2 packs)

cincinnati style chili with cheese and beans ( a lot ), powerade

chicken salad sandwhich, lemonade

peanut butter sandwhich, powerade

chicken, mushroom, egg noodle dish and 2 bud lites
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Old 03-27-2008, 05:53 PM   #304 (permalink)
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I'd hoped that posting food would help my OCD and working out / posting in my log but it hasn't and I'm bored with it. I did eat a lot today.

Anyway, I'm going to take Matthew's advice and do this-

monday - bench, one accessory lift, back work
tuesday - squat, one accessory lift, abs
wednesday - take a nice long walk on the treadmill
thursday - bench, one accessory, back work
friday - pull, one accessory, abs

Except on Wednesdays I'll play basketball until May, at which point I will start a 4-week 1 hour college course called "weightlifting". That's right, I'm 38 and will be in a college weightlifting class (when it's all said and done I was going to be 2 hours short for a degree, so I'm taking two 1 hour summer courses). This class is MON-FRI 8:00 - 9:00 and I heard they want you to lift every day. So, if that's the case I'll just lift arms on Wednesdays or something like that.

The best part is the second 1 hour class is "Awesome Abs". I'm trying to get my wife to walk me to the first class so the coeds don't think I'm a creep-stalker guy. This class, though it fits my schedule perfectly, will suck as I don't dig on the ab work, and I'll look like an idiot. However, at that point I will lift weights after work and can do a 4 day split and all we be good.
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I can't believe that "weightlifting" and "awesome abs" count towards a college degree.

Sorry if this has been answered already; what field is your degree in?
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I can't believe that "weightlifting" and "awesome abs" count towards a college degree.

Sorry if this has been answered already; what field is your degree in?
It's a major in History.

Our university has a lot of classes like that which are worth one hour as opposed to three. Tap dance, tennis, track and field, etc. are all one hour courses. It's basically paying money for a college credit hour.
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Old 03-29-2008, 06:21 PM   #307 (permalink)
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Well, I don't want to jinx myself, but felt I should note in the log that my shoulder is feeling better. As of yesterday it still hurt and I was pretty discouraged since I'd taken so many days off. But, today it feels better and I'm hoping it was tendonitis that's finally going away.

Next week I plan to work hard, but not go crazy for two reasons- the shoulder and the fact that I've been off over 7 days.

New schedule next week too, so I'm curious to see how that goes.
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I'm going to be uber-lazy and just ask--did you do the NSAID routine along w resting for the shoulder? Ice? Etc?

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How about stretching it?

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And you didn't take tap dance?

oh wait, wait, I know. It was full right?
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I'm going to be uber-lazy and just ask--did you do the NSAID routine along w resting for the shoulder? Ice? Etc?

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I was icing it and taking ibuprofin but I didn't rest it until this past week.
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How about stretching it?

And you didn't take tap dance?

oh wait, wait, I know. It was full right?
Yeah, I figured tap wasn't quite as butch as 'awesome abs'.

Yeah, I stretched it and tried extra warmups, etc. The rest seems to finally be working and probably what I needed. What's really funny is that it's my "good" shoulder, not the one that I've dislocated so many times.
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Try swing dancing. That's manly.
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Try swing dancing. That's manly.
Before our wedding my wife and I took dance lessons, including swing. I'm, uh, not good. I could pick up stuff during the class, but 5 minutes after it was over I couldn't do anything.
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I think that was a shot at me, actually.
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Matthew's got it.

I'd like to take some dance lessons, actually. I know nothing.
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Monday, March 31 2008

Finally back in the gym. Shoulder hurt a little at first - though not as bad as it had last time out. Then, by the end it was o.k. Unfortunately it's still not 100%. Lots of stretching and work with the bar beforehand.

Bench press

3 x 225
3 x 225
3 x 225
3 x 225
3 x 225
3 x 225

Tricep cable push downs

25 x 120
12 x 150
6 x 180

Bent over dumbell rows

8 x 80 ea
8 x 80 ea
8 x 80 ea

Cable lat pulldown

6 x 150
6 x 150
6 x 150

All reps on bench were fairly easy. Pinkies on the ring of the bar as this helps shoulder pain. Unfortunately is lowers amount of weight I can push. I didn't want to go crazy since I hadn't been in in over a week. On Mondays I'll try to go heavy (for me) on bench, then do higher rep triceps and then back work. On Thursdays I'll try bench for speed, then maybe dumbell bench work (incline?) with heavy tricep stuff and some more upper back work.
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Tuesday April 1

Squats

3 x 245
3 x 245
3 x 245
3 x 255
3 x 265
3 x 275
3 x 275
3 x 275

SLDLs

8 x 135
8 x 135
8 x 135

seated calf raises

3 sets of 8, 3 plates, whatever

standing ab cable pulldowns

20 x 120
20 x 120
20 x 120

Still easing in. Squats were pretty good- I forgot my belt though. I'm encouraged by 3 x 275 easy sets- I really concentrated on holding in a big breath and that seemed to really help. The weight just feels lighter on my shoulders now too.

Gotta add another pressing lift on this day I think- maybe lunges.
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Tuesday April 1

Squats

3 x 245
3 x 245
3 x 245
3 x 255
3 x 265
3 x 275
3 x 275
3 x 275

SLDLs

8 x 135
8 x 135
8 x 135

seated calf raises

3 sets of 8, 3 plates, whatever

standing ab cable pulldowns

20 x 120
20 x 120
20 x 120

Still easing in. Squats were pretty good- I forgot my belt though. I'm encouraged by 3 x 275 easy sets- I really concentrated on holding in a big breath and that seemed to really help. The weight just feels lighter on my shoulders now too.

Gotta add another pressing lift on this day I think- maybe lunges.
impressed that you stuck with the rest week.

So wtih taking a big breath - what's the thought process there? Asking out of ignorance.
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impressed that you stuck with the rest week.

So wtih taking a big breath - what's the thought process there? Asking out of ignorance.
Thanks, I'm off work today and not going to the gym is really weird. But I think I was going too much before.

I've read that filling your belly with air helps stabilize the midsection during the lift. I also heard that you're supposed to push against a belt for the same reason.
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you push against your belt to help stablize your whole body. It helps keep everything stable and tight. If you learn to take a big breath and push out you will notice the increased stability
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maybe you should stop pressing for a few weeks and let your shoulder heal.
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maybe you should stop pressing for a few weeks and let your shoulder heal.
I'm afraid it may come to that. It really does feel better overall right now, so I'm going to hope it continues to get better. If not, I can do pretty much everything but bench and see if that gets rid of it for good.
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Learning how to use a belt and hold air in your gut is key for a big squat, takes loads and loads of practice.

this is kind of against the grain of what most people recommend in regard to belt use (many say only use it about 90% or some number like that). But I feel as the more you use it the more you begin to use it more efficiently, most people dont get very many lbs out of a belt because they are not breathing into it correctly. Ive always felt that more warmup sets with it help me get used to it.
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Learning how to use a belt and hold air in your gut is key for a big squat, takes loads and loads of practice.

this is kind of against the grain of what most people recommend in regard to belt use (many say only use it about 90% or some number like that). But I feel as the more you use it the more you begin to use it more efficiently, most people dont get very many lbs out of a belt because they are not breathing into it correctly. Ive always felt that more warmup sets with it help me get used to it.
Well, I hope like hell I've made some kind of discovery / step with this sucking in the air thing because the reps I did yesterday felt easier and more stable than before.
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I'm afraid it may come to that. It really does feel better overall right now, so I'm going to hope it continues to get better. If not, I can do pretty much everything but bench and see if that gets rid of it for good.
just do it now man.

there's no sense in beating yourself up to the point of injury if you're not right near a contest. Sometimes you have to make risks, but now's not really the time to do it.

Just rest up, do some prehab/rows, and rest for a few weeks without doing any pressing. Then work back to where you were before. Play it smart.
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just do it now man.

there's no sense in beating yourself up to the point of injury if you're not right near a contest. Sometimes you have to make risks, but now's not really the time to do it.

Just rest up, do some prehab/rows, and rest for a few weeks without doing any pressing. Then work back to where you were before. Play it smart.
It feels better and tomorrow's a lighter day pressing so I'll see how it feels and decide. If I have to stop I have to stop for a while, but I'm only going to do it reluctantly.
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Try out different kinds of presses, different grip widths, etc. See if there's something you can do that doesn't hurt your shoulder.
Dumbbell presses, incline/decline, neutral grip, close grip barbell, push ups.

Also, this is kind of nit picky, but try doing one press, then a pull, then your next pressing movement. Instead of doing the two pressing movement right after each other, and then the two pulling movements right after each other.
The rest between pressing movements might make the overall session easier on your shoulder.


Still good numbers though, good job.
Add some weight to the SLDL.
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Try out different kinds of presses, different grip widths, etc. See if there's something you can do that doesn't hurt your shoulder.
Dumbbell presses, incline/decline, neutral grip, close grip barbell, push ups.

Also, this is kind of nit picky, but try doing one press, then a pull, then your next pressing movement. Instead of doing the two pressing movement right after each other, and then the two pulling movements right after each other.
The rest between pressing movements might make the overall session easier on your shoulder.


Still good numbers though, good job.
Add some weight to the SLDL.
Thanks.

Closer grip helps. I'm going to try dips tommorow. I don't see how they'd be better, but I'll give it a shot.
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Thursday, APril 3

Bench press

6 x 135
6 x 135
10 x 185
9 x 185
6 x 185

Dips

5 x bw
10 x bw
10 x bw
10 x bw

Cable lat pulldown

10 x 150
10 x 150
10 x 150

ez bar curls

6 x 80
6 x 80
6 x 80

Shoulder is still improving. This was a light day for bench (and I ran out of gas on reps) so it didn't test the shoulder much, but I got the feeling that heavier weight would probably cause pain. The good news- no discomfort at all in dips. I mean, these felt great.

So, the plan is keep bench pressing within a range of pain free and slowly see if the should keeps improving. At the same time, if I can do dips and maybe add weight to bw, that could do for a substitute for heavy benching for a while. I'll play it by ear and stay out of situations where it hurts.

Very encouraged by this.
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