Ive squated well over 600 with a high bar placement, i just dont like the fact i can't sit back as far (just the mechanics of the lift). I am with rippetoe on the issue that high bar squats are not as good as low bar, even for oly lifters. Ill deal with the elbow problems as they come, art/foam rolling/joint supps seem to let me keep it under control.
A SSB isn't that expensive, but the shipping here would be nuts i imagine. There is a gym 40mins away with a SSB that maybe in the future ill get some training at, we'll see. Id be more inclined to buy one if i wasn't making progress with a straight / cambered bar set-up.
A SSB isn't that expensive, but the shipping here would be nuts i imagine. There is a gym 40mins away with a SSB that maybe in the future ill get some training at, we'll see. Id be more inclined to buy one if i wasn't making progress with a straight / cambered bar set-up.
drive to columbus and pick it up. ha!
i agree, i was just saying i'd take a SSB over a buffalo bar any day.
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Where does Rippetoe say that low bar = better? I'd like to read that.
If you have what I have, try wrapping a tensor bandage tight around your forearm right underneath your elbow - halfway down. Even if you don't have what I have it's worth a try, the bandages are only about five dollars.
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Frank are you having a tendinitis problem or is it mroe just a wrenching-type thing going on w/ the elbow?
hard to say, i really dont know.
if I squat heavy to many weeks in a row my elbows starts bothering me pretty badly during the workout. Sometimes bench pressing seems to do the same thing, but i think its caused by squatting, because when i have stoped back squatting the pain goes away about 75%.
its in both elbows usually at the same time, left one is worse, but ive also dislocated that one a few times and its pretty screwed up.
matthew, it was on an artical on elitefts, im kind of lazy.. search his name and read
Sumo deads
60kg x 5
100kg x 3
140kg x 1
180kg x 1
220kg x 1
240kg x 1
260kg(572lbs) x 1 (22lbs deadlift pr)
272.5 (601lbs)x F (missed it about 2 inch from lockout).
272.5 (601lbs) x 1 (50lbs pr - about the uglyest deadlift anybody has ever whitnessed).
cambered bar good mornings
105kg x 5
145kg x 5
x5
x5
c1 machine hack squats
80kg x 8
x8
x 15 (rest-paused)
c2 db curls
35e x 12
40e x 10
45e x 10
50e x 8
Deadlift PRs are great, but its disapointing knowing that i have the strength for probally 50-70lbs more in me if i can get my form improved. The weights where flying fast up to my knees then locking them out is one of the hardest things ive ever done. the 601lbs lift was like a 10 second lift the ended with a bleeding nose, me spitting up bood and a pimple on my chest popped hahaha. If I can learn not to use all my legs at the bottom and all back at the top, my sumo pull will be pretty decent i think. 650 seems realistic in the comp.
my sumo deadlift may be higher then conventional deadlift now, not to sure, the are probally within 10lbs, but i think i can improve my sumo deadlift much more in the next few weeks because my technique is so shitty.
Deadlift PRs are great, but its disapointing knowing that i have the strength for probally 50-70lbs more in me if i can get my form improved. The weights where flying fast up to my knees then locking them out is one of the hardest things ive ever done. the 601lbs lift was like a 10 second lift the ended with a bleeding nose, me spitting up bood and a pimple on my chest popped hahaha.
Nothing worse than spontaneous pimple explosions... jeebus, Frank!
yeah i was using my suit, not sure how much it was helping considering i can always get weight to my knees with a sumo lift, anything past there is hard. Maybe i was getting some lbs out of it, if so, good for me
thanks everyone, it was an alright pull, the second i finished it i was thinking about 650 and 700
i have a plan for the sumo deads, for the next few weeks im going to work on some heavy singles on deadlift day. and also improve my good morning. should be good.
who cares if you get anything out of the suit? it's all in the rules. if you're not getting anything out of the suit, get a new suit so you do! haha! Pound that lockout like you've been doing.
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im sure i could get some out of it, but considering its the first time using it with sumo deads, i think getting much out of it would be lucky. I think my lockout is fairly strong, i just get in suck a bad position at the lockout that they are hard as hell.. it will come i think.
today: me bench
diet: high day
fat bar reverse band 2 board (bands deloaded at 5 board level)
62.5kg x 10
102.5kg x 5
122.5kg x 1
142.5kg x 1
152.5kg x 1
162.5kg x 1
172.5kg (381lbs)x 1 (close)
172.5kg x f
close grip reverse band 4 board 142.5kg x 5
152.5kg x 5
x 4
Pendaly rows
60kg x 10
80kg x 10
90kg x 10
x 10
x 10
circut (3x):
curls (40lbs) x 10
db extensions (35) x 12, 10, 10
side raise (35) x 12, 12, x12
good session overall. bench is moving along nicely.
Here is the basic plan. I'm sure some things are going to change. This starts next saturday. Bit of a gamble with the sumo pulls, but im feeling somewhat confident with them after hitting the 601 the other day.
I have a feeling this is going to be my best training cycle in terms of strength gains, ever. Why? Because im training in a good enviroment for once, with a big goal in mind.
some notes:
standups = just going to unrack a weight over what i was using and not squat it, get my body ready for bigger weights. I have a bit of a problem standing with heavy weights (waiting for squat command) this should have me very confident by the end.
ME Squat:
6 - 3 heavy singles (no wraps, breifs if have)
5 - reverse band (green) 1rm (full gear) + standups
3 - Full gear single - couple heavy lifts. (full gear) + standups
2 - max effort double (no fail) (full gear) + standups
1 - opener + standups
Squat accessory 1
Rows
Ab Circut
DE Squat -8 sets, doubles
6 - box, cambered bar 330 + greens + lights
5 - box, cambered bar 340 + greens + lights
4 - no box, add breifs 360 + greens + lights
3 - same - 380 + greens + lights
2 - same 400 + greens + lights
1 - none
Squat Accessory 2
Cambered bar good mornings (5rep)
GHR (6-8 rep)
ME Bench
6 - if shirt, use, if not - ME 4 board
5 - Shirt singles (these by feel).
4 - Shirt singles
3 - Shirt singles
2 - Shirt singles
1 - opener
Deadlift day
6 - 560 for 5 singles
5 - reverse band sumo, 3 heavy singles
4 - 590 for 3 singles
3 - 1rm attempt
2 - opener
1 - none
Deadlift Accessory
sumo rack pulls
hack squats
Also, diet is staying with what im doing now (carb cycling) because it is working alright (slow and steady..). cardio, low intensity 30-40mins everyday.
Full speed ahead from here on out. Elbows are feeling pretty good, shoulders feel good, etc. going to crank the intensity up another notch for the last 7 weeks here. Not worried the slightest bit about over training, diet is good, rest will be made priority.
looks good. Youll have a lot of work with heavy weights...
How long are you going to deload before the meet
yeah, the meet is on a saturday, the monday before ill take my opening squat then deload or maybe do some light back work on the wednesday or something.
Not planning on dropping accessory work out or anything, taking some advice from mr simmons here.. why cut out what makes you strong?
Yes, the weights are fairly heavy from now until the meet but im not to worried about it. The muscle soreness and whatnot is minimalized due to the gear and im not going to burnout. If things start getting bad ill change something, dont think they will.
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Originally Posted by Simon C
I'm guessing about 6 days???
It will be interesting to see how much you can get out of your shirt, I'm thinking close to 400lbs with a shirt for sure.
the shirt is a single ply katana for those wondering, supposed to be a pretty good shirt. my bench raw bench is about 340lbs, right now i think its around 320-330 (lost a bunch of body weight i blame this on). Getting anything less then 100lbs out of this shirt is really shitty.. so 400 'should' be doable, but i wont know til i try it a few times.
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And major action will certainly make you feel a bit uncomfortable, which is absolutely fine. You've gotta get excited about feeling uncomfortable, you've gotta love feeling slightly uncomfortable, because you know that you're stepping outside the boundaries that you used to create.
Zach Even-Esh
I've made some huge mistakes, but they were necessary, because without them I wouldn't have learned anything.
-Dave Tate
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