You really did make that 450 look easy. Nice work!
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170kg is my best single, 150 is a routine single for me. So Id need about 11kg on that.
As for training, Im going squat very often.
I don't mean to hijack here, but I was hoping no get some advice on preventing upper back rounding during front squats. I have been working on increasing my FS and my upper back seems to be my weak point. I am trying to incorporate more rows and deadlifts, but don't really have any ideas beyond that.
And make sure you're doing work to specifically target the supporting muscles of the middle back. Sometimes "rowing" just doesn't cut it, if you're not doing them to hit that area.
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You really did make that 450 look easy. Nice work!
I don't mean to hijack here, but I was hoping no get some advice on preventing upper back rounding during front squats. I have been working on increasing my FS and my upper back seems to be my weak point. I am trying to incorporate more rows and deadlifts, but don't really have any ideas beyond that.
I do a lot of back work in OLing. I will do paused pulls (pull to a certain height, pause, then finish the pull or put it down), pulls from different heights off blocks, etc.
Those pulls definitely work the static strength needed for the clean and it has good carryover to the FS because Im not rounded from the pull to begin with and have to waste energy to get upright.
Additionally, Ill do very strict rows (absolutely no hip action) pausing in between reps from these positions to reinforce the static strength but also build up general back strength. Depending on the position, the row will target different areas. I mainly work the mid back and upper back.
Beyond that, just a lot of front squatting focusing on the form. Making sure that Im braced to all hell and using my hips at the bottom. I typically let form dictate my weights so that I dont use bad habits.
400 is the intemediate goal, I have to get up to about 210kg which I really dont want to think about given that thats about 10kg over my back squat.
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I do a lot of back work in OLing. I will do paused pulls (pull to a certain height, pause, then finish the pull or put it down), pulls from different heights off blocks, etc.
Those pulls definitely work the static strength needed for the clean and it has good carryover to the FS because Im not rounded from the pull to begin with and have to waste energy to get upright.
Additionally, Ill do very strict rows (absolutely no hip action) pausing in between reps from these positions to reinforce the static strength but also build up general back strength. Depending on the position, the row will target different areas. I mainly work the mid back and upper back.
Beyond that, just a lot of front squatting focusing on the form. Making sure that Im braced to all hell and using my hips at the bottom. I typically let form dictate my weights so that I dont use bad habits.
400 is the intemediate goal, I have to get up to about 210kg which I really dont want to think about given that thats about 10kg over my back squat.
what do you think about the growing trend of using parallel squats instead of oly for olympic lifters to overload the squat? IMO oly squats are the best strength builder for oly athletes, especially since it mimics the position of cleans. But, i think parallel squats can help out to get used to the weight.
Thoughts?
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Just wondering. I know you were talking about booking your hotel and such so I figured it was coming up soon, like next week. Boston is great and by mid-May the weather should be really nice.
Just wondering. I know you were talking about booking your hotel and such so I figured it was coming up soon, like next week. Boston is great and by mid-May the weather should be really nice.
ah! yea hopefully. we were going to go in march, but it would have been too cold, and nothing was open. i thought you were coming there on business and you could kick it with us!
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ah! yea hopefully. we were going to go in march, but it would have been too cold, and nothing was open. i thought you were coming there on business and you could kick it with us!
What, do you need someone to buy you beer? You know, I don't get to Boston very often for biz. I wish I did, it's a great town.
What, do you need someone to buy you beer? You know, I don't get to Boston very often for biz. I wish I did, it's a great town.
hahaha! no, she's 24, i'm 23, we can both buy beer (probably w/o even getting carded) Although, i don't think either one of us drink as much as we used to. I haven't had a beer since before new years.
I've been to a lot of towns in Mass. but never boston. Last time i went with my family we were planning on going, but they had the Democratic National Convention in boston, so it was too crazy to go.
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what do you think about the growing trend of using parallel squats instead of oly for olympic lifters to overload the squat? IMO oly squats are the best strength builder for oly athletes, especially since it mimics the position of cleans. But, i think parallel squats can help out to get used to the weight.
Thoughts?
Ghey.
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what do you think about the growing trend of using parallel squats instead of oly for olympic lifters to overload the squat? IMO oly squats are the best strength builder for oly athletes, especially since it mimics the position of cleans. But, i think parallel squats can help out to get used to the weight.
Thoughts?
I think its a great idea
If you are squating 500,600, whatever, to paralell 405 is going to feel like a peanut on your back and you are not going to be missing any lifts with it.
If you are squating 500,600, whatever, to paralell 405 is going to feel like a peanut on your back and you are not going to be missing any lifts with it.
This never worked for me especially since I was not used to stopping in the middle of a squat and given that most of the failure in an oly squat is from the bottom.
I will say, however, that working with a yoke definitely had the effect of making a bar feel lighter. Having 600lbs constantly on my back makes 400lbs pretty light. That kind of stability and confidence at the start of a can save some mental and physical energy, enough to set a PR.
This is also all in regards to the back squat. Unless you have a thin bar for a yoke, it will be hard to do the above for a FS. I also have less inclination to stop in the middle of a FS because for me its like a freefall into a position in the hole rather than muscled lift (if that makes sense). So if you want to get around the psychology of a heavy weight, perhaps heavy holds from the rack.
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may depend on squat style too, most oly lifters i know have a very fast decent in the squat and rebound out of the hole pretty quick.
I know my full squats, the decent is faster then a PL squat, but not by all that much really.. probally 2 seconds to get down all the way.
I think its going to be interesting to see what happens to me if i decide to compete in a raw comp they are having here in the summer which uses ipf rules (not a full oly squat, but way closer then what i do now).
Hah, its just like I said, you could front squat that any time, good job.
Your goals sucked haha, go make new harder ones now!
I definitely couldn't have squatted that any time. My front squats have just gotten better b/c i've been doing them a lot more. When i made that goal, my previous best double was 175x2.
The goals didn't really suck. I just took where i was at the time of the goals being made. Then i took the contest weights. I figured it was, i think, 4 months at the time, and figured to press 180 log, i should be repping 190-200 on front squats to get more leg drive on the press by contest time. So, i just took where i was, and divided the time, and then divided the total poundage that i would need to get there.
Same with the deadlift. I could only pull like 415x2 or 3 at the time, and i wanted to pull 8-10 reps by the show, so i figured if i pulled 2-3 by may, 4-5 by june, i should be good for 8 by july.
I'm just getting a general studies degree, which i guess, is pretty easily marketable. I guess we'll find out. I think i have about a semester left.
I really want to hit events this weekend, but my back is pretty trashed from the cleans, presses and deadlifts the past few days. I think it's probably smart if i take it easy this weekend, and then maybe try to yoke on monday, considering the amount of stress the yoke puts on your back
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oh yea, a cop at my gym today was trying to set me up with some girl. He said she was 27, looking for a good hearted guy around 23-27. He said he thought of me, and said she was good looking, and had a few jobs, was smart and successful. He said the only catch was that she said she wanted to get married in a few years and have kids!
She went to the same high school as one of my friends, so i asked her to look in her yearbook and see what this chick actually looked like.
Anyway, i think setups are really creepy, and i'd feel weird going to a blind date, so.... yea...
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unless shes an idiot. if there is one thing i cant stand.. its dumb girls who know more about jessica simpson then they know of politics/economy/science. sorry.. just met a good friend's girlfriend (who is smoking hot).. but when i told her i took geography classes in school she said "I thought we had found most of the places on the earth already".
I definitely couldn't have squatted that any time. My front squats have just gotten better b/c i've been doing them a lot more. When i made that goal, my previous best double was 175x2.
The goals didn't really suck. I just took where i was at the time of the goals being made. Then i took the contest weights. I figured it was, i think, 4 months at the time, and figured to press 180 log, i should be repping 190-200 on front squats to get more leg drive on the press by contest time. So, i just took where i was, and divided the time, and then divided the total poundage that i would need to get there.
Same with the deadlift. I could only pull like 415x2 or 3 at the time, and i wanted to pull 8-10 reps by the show, so i figured if i pulled 2-3 by may, 4-5 by june, i should be good for 8 by july.
Okay, maybe you just did really well still, you need to update those goals now!
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I'm just getting a general studies degree, which i guess, is pretty easily marketable. I guess we'll find out. I think i have about a semester left.
Hmmmm, I don't think we have general studies here in Australia, what classes do you do, any compulsory ones?
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but when i told her i took geography classes in school she said "I thought we had found most of the places on the earth already".
Go for the blind date dude. Almost every girl wants to get married and have kids, and she is 27, so I don't see how that's really a big deal. You don't have to propose after one date.
Plus good looking + smart is the ultimate combination. Add short and feisty to that equation and I'd fly down there just to go on the date with her.
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but when i told her i took geography classes in school she said "I thought we had found most of the places on the earth already".
This is beautiful.
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Go for the blind date dude. Almost every girl wants to get married and have kids, and she is 27, so I don't see how that's really a big deal. You don't have to propose after one date.
Plus good looking + smart is the ultimate combination. Add short and feisty to that equation and I'd fly down there just to go on the date with her.
I agree.
What's the issue? That it's a setup or that she wants to get married and have kids. Most 23 year girls want that, too, you know?
If it's the blind date part, that's tougher. They are weird and it depends on how confident and talkative you are as to whether you can easily do them. If you just acknowledge the weirdness right off the bat -- like on the phone call(s) leading up to it -- it's liberating and you can laugh about it. ...unless you're not funny or talkative or she's painfuly quiet or fugly. Then, you've got the longest cup of coffee, ever.
Go on the date. If anything it will make for a good story.
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yea, i think it's mainly about the weirdness of the situation. The kids thing and getting married kind of freaks me out, because i know i'm not ready for that, and won't be for a good few years. It's just kind of weird that someone says right off the bat before dating them, well, i want to have kids and get married in a few years. I guess it's better than hiding it and springing it on the person after a few years. I dunno. We'll see... the guy said he was going to get her phone # for me, even though i didn't tell him one way or the other.
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i just realized that i hit my deadlift goal for May 4th already, almost 1 month early!
I would have never thought that my deadlift would go up as quickly as it has!
I don't have to work tomorrow, so i may hit the gym, and get an overhead workout in? Either that, or i'll hit some events tomorrow, and then hit overhead on saturday?
Either way, i need to hit yoke this week! I need to start feeling the weight on my back again, even if it's only for short runs!
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yea, i think it's mainly about the weirdness of the situation. The kids thing and getting married kind of freaks me out, because i know i'm not ready for that, and won't be for a good few years. It's just kind of weird that someone says right off the bat before dating them, well, i want to have kids and get married in a few years. I guess it's better than hiding it and springing it on the person after a few years. I dunno. We'll see... the guy said he was going to get her phone # for me, even though i didn't tell him one way or the other.
Seriously? DO IT.
When I first moved to Texas, I didn't know a soul, my divorce was final, and hey, where the hell was that candy store?
I pretty much went out with every man that asked me or that I was set up with that wasn't a visible mutant or too fugly to make eye contact with for a year--most of the time, they only got one date, but it was fun. Some of them were creeps, some were socially retarded, some were needy little bitches, and some were really, really great.
I acquired some mad dating skillz. That's probably why I'm married again, LOL.... which was not something I was looking for at all. Anyway, if it sucks, you just never speak again. Easy!
Seriously? DO IT.
When I first moved to Texas, I didn't know a soul, my divorce was final, and hey, where the hell was that candy store?
I pretty much went out with every man that asked me or that I was set up with that wasn't a visible mutant or too fugly to make eye contact with for a year--most of the time, they only got one date, but it was fun. Some of them were creeps, some were socially retarded, some were needy little bitches, and some were really, really great.
I acquired some mad dating skillz. That's probably why I'm married again, LOL.... which was not something I was looking for at all. Anyway, if it sucks, you just never speak again. Easy!
still, you need to update those goals now!
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