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Old 03-11-2009, 12:11 AM   #3061 (permalink)
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so your pretty fucked up,
can you fix it???
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so your pretty fucked up,
can you fix it???
he seems to think so.

2nd opinion coming thurs.
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got second opinion from a sports medicine doctor. He took more xrays and determined that it was trochanteric bursitis.

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Hip bursitis is a common problem that causes pain over the outside of the upper thigh. A bursa is a fluid filled sac that allows smooth motion between two uneven surfaces. For example, in the hip, a bursa rests between the bony prominence over the outside of the hip (the greater trochanter) and the firm tendon that passed over this bone. When the bursal sac becomes inflamed, each time the tendon has to move over the bone, pain results. Because patients with hip bursitis move this tendon with each step, hip bursitis symptoms can be quite painful.
basically, it's inflammation of the hip. He prescribed anti-inflammatories to be taken twice a day, and wants me to do rehab along with various stretching exercises throughout the day.

If this doesn't work, he wants to do a cortisone injection. I personally think i'll have to get this, since the inflammation didn't seem to be going down much with aspirin, but we'll see if this works. I'd rather not be taking cortisone shots already, so i'll be icing along with this.

He thinks the underlining cause of it is tight hamstrings, which, Mike said i need to work on. He wants me to go to rehab for a few weeks, so i know what to do, and then he said i can rehab myself.

I think the program Mike put me on was good, but the RDLs were causing my hip to become inflamed again.... I'm looking forward to getting all this shit sorted, and then go back to fixing my imbalances that mike saw i had (which included tight hamstrings)
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3-12-09:
bw: 220 in the AM. Looking to crack below 220 in the next few weeks.

I went to my weightlifting class in the morning, and managed to do virtually nothing for the entire class. I didn't even touch a weight, but did get to watch some girls play racquetball wearing short shorts. It was great.

Went to class later in the day, and went to the gym to lift, but the gym was INVADED with douchebags in cutoff tees doing curl-offs in front of the mirror. I instantly grabbed my man card and left the gym.

Later at my house:

Bench:
150x3
160x5 (only 5lbs off my best 5rm, but i'm 13lbs lighter)
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3bd press:
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180x3
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BA Chinups: a few sets
Banded Pullaparts (purple): 2x10
Banded Pushdowns: 2x20

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Hey Zach. Glad to hear you finally got an answer to your why-is-my-back-so-fucked-up questions! I hope you can get it sorted soon. Just keep up those stretches!
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Old 03-13-2009, 07:03 AM   #3066 (permalink)
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Glad you got an answer.
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Alco, bursitis is the default issue for hip pain, and cortisone isnt going to do anything.

You have significant mobility issues that are probably causing the inflammation. Fix your movement patterns, then see what happens. Bottom line, get back on your program from Mike and Bill. Like someone said earlier, its going to feel worse as it gets fixed before it gets better.
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Damn! Sounds like your back is pretty fucked!

Good luck with the rehab stuff.
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Alco, bursitis is the default issue for hip pain, and cortisone isnt going to do anything.

You have significant mobility issues that are probably causing the inflammation. Fix your movement patterns, then see what happens. Bottom line, get back on your program from Mike and Bill. Like someone said earlier, its going to feel worse as it gets fixed before it gets better.
Yep, Bill e-mailed me and this is what i'm doing. I think i'm gonna nix going to the rehab and just keep on this program, keep taking anti-inflams and icing, and see how that works out for me. I think we're gonna swap out the RDLs, or decrease the ROM or something, since that seems to be what caused me the pain in the current program.

It already feels a lot better with just increased icing and taking some anti-inflams, so hopefully it will stay this way, and can get the issues taken care of with the mobility patterns.

The inflammation is what's causing me the pain, but the cause of it is the lack of mobility. So, if the inflammation can go down and stay down, i can fix the mobility issues and be feeling pretty good in 4-6 months, i'm guessing.

I didn't mean to imply that Bill's program didn't work. It's just very very frustrating when things hurt, and when i get a second opinion, they tell you something different, usually something that I want to hear. You have doctors, chiros and Bill all saying different things. So it's time to hunker down and stick with the program that i think will benefit me most in the long run.
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BTW, i appreciate all the good wishes.

3-13-09 (yesterday):
Lotsa foam rolling
All the mobility work. i don't feel like listing it, but if someone wants, i can.

Accute corrective:
1a: rectus femoris stretch 3x30seconds
1b: psoas stretch: 3x30seconds
1c: suprine bridge w/hold: 3x10
1d: side lying clams w/hold: 3x10
1e: x-band walks (mini): 3x10
1f: seated psoas holds: 3x5 my psoas felt a little tight on the first set, but felt nice and loose by the 3rd

1a: plate squat to box: #25x12x2 I was well below parallel on these, and no pain.
1b: split stance cable row: 2x12 I had to use bands on these since my pulley system was messed up and the low pulley won't flex this far.
2a: prisoner step ups: bwx12x2 pretty easy
2b: kneeling cable push: 2x12
3a: face pull: 2x15
3b: side bridge: 2x10 (5 sec holds). THESE SUCK! I seriously hate side bridges.
3c: prone scaption: 2x12 I did these on a stability ball

PWO stretching:
RDL EQI: 1 set
90/90: 3x30 I finally figured out how to target the hips on these. I was feeling them in my adductors previously, but now feel them mainly in the abductors, and some hamstrings/adductors
psoas stretch: 3x30 seconds


Then i iced hip and low back for about 40 minutes, took an anti-inflammatory, and then rolled with a rolling pin (instead of a stick) shortly after i ate.

Body felt pretty good, and still does today
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Hey Zach. Looks like you're doing the right thing. I know it gets frustrating when things get worse first, but doing this will absolutely pay off in no time. You'll be stronger and healthier and WAY less fragile.
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Hey Zach. Looks like you're doing the right thing. I know it gets frustrating when things get worse first, but doing this will absolutely pay off in no time. You'll be stronger and healthier and WAY less fragile.
hey hey, it's finespun.
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BTW, i appreciate all the good wishes.

3-13-09 (yesterday):
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All the mobility work. i don't feel like listing it, but if someone wants, i can.
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Do it bitch.
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How are you doing, you delicate flower? I'm not sure, since I still see no recent postings regarding your mobility shyte.
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ok ok...

Every day, i've been doing multiple sessions of foam rolling, stretching, and using the rolling pin on my adductors among other parts b/c it's hard to get in there w/ a foam roller.

So, you know i do that, but i'll just list the cardio i've done the past few days.

3-16-09:
Played basketball and shot around by myself at Notre Dame from 10:30pm-12:00am. It was nice, and i'm starting to get my shot back. This was not very strenuous since i didn't play any pick up games, but still got some good cardio in. I figure this took the place of steady state work, but i'll still try and get a few sessions in this week.

3-18:09:
Foam Rolling
Acute Corrective exercises (3 sets of each)

DB Swings (1 minute rest):
40x10x3
50x10x4
I was only supposed to do 5 sets, but the 40s were pretty easy so i did a few extra w/ 50s.

More stretching


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and are things feeling any better??
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and are things feeling any better??
yea they are.

the ice and anti-inflams have brought down the inflammation that was causing me pain, so there's very very little, if any, pain. Now, it's just a matter of getting things loose and working properly so it doesn't get aggravated again.
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3-19-09:

Foam Rolling/Tennis ball:

feet, calves, tfl, pecs, rotators, hips and quads

Dynamic Mobility:

Windshield wipers
Knee Hugs
Butt Kicks
Single leg RDLs (these are REALLY improving. I previously had trouble with balance, but i'm able to bust through these very easy now.)
Lunge+twist
Walking Spiderman
Lateral Lunge
Thoracic rotation
Pushup plus
2 other rotations

Acute Corrective:
3 sets of each

Workout:

Pullthroughs (subbed for RDLs): 2 purple bandsx12x2 (these felt good. no pain, glute and hams working well!)

Chest Supported Row:
90x12
105x8 + 95x4 (gauged a bit too heavy. did 100x12 last time, so i'll get 105 next week)

DB Split Squats:
20x12
30x12 (weights and balance are really moving up on these! Big weights for them soon)

Incline Pushups: 2x12
External Rotations: 2x12
Planks
I,T,Ys

pretty good workout. Things are feeling good. I'll ice the hip in a few minutes when i'm eating to make sure things are staying good. I noticed my hams are getting a little more loose, but my adductors are getting very loose. I used to feel a tightness all the time doing exercises, but after mobility and foam rolling, they feel great.
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Keep up the mobility work, it looks like are are starting to make some really good progress.
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pretty good workout. Things are feeling good. I'll ice the hip in a few minutes when i'm eating to make sure things are staying good. I noticed my hams are getting a little more loose, but my adductors are getting very loose. I used to feel a tightness all the time doing exercises, but after mobility and foam rolling, they feel great.
Tell the Dr. to suck on your bursa sac.
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Tell the Dr. to suck on your bursa sac.
i told the receptionist to suck on my filled fluit sac when i called to cancel my appointment for tomorrow.

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Glad you're feeling looser, Zach.
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Thanks Tina!


3-24-09:
Foam Rolling

Cardio:
DB Swings:
35x10 (EH)-warmup
40x10x2 (EH. 40 total swings)
50x10x2 (EH. 40 total swings)

Stretching

I did basically 20 swings continuously, and then took 1 minute rest, and then swung again. Got the heart rate going, but wasn't too bad.


3-24-09:
Cardio:
20 minutes Precore (elliptical) Intervals. around 10 minutes of intervals and i'm guessing 5 minutes each for warmup and cooldown.

At the end of cooldown, pulse was 108, so i'm sure i hit the required HR during intervals. This was hard as it was the first time i've used this, and i was dripping wet.


I'll get another workout in tonight
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3-25-09 (12:30am workout):
bw: 219.5 (yay. -13.5lbs since the start)

Foam Rolling: lower, hips, thoracic, etc

Dynamic Warmup: flew through this. It's getting easier and easier!

Acute Corrective: 3 sets of each. Psoas is getting nice and loose. I'm
able to raise my knee above my hip without my hip and psoas feeling like it's going to seize up.

Training:

A1. Plate Squat: 25x12x2 These felt great. No hip pain and good mobility. I even lowered the box another inch on the second set.
A2: Prisoner Step Ups: bwx12x2
A3: Face Pulls: green bandx15x2

B1: Kneeling Cable Row: purplex12x2
B2: Kneeling Cable Push: purplex15x2
B3: Side Planks: 5 second holdsx10x2 Did i mention how much i HATE these??

Prone Scaptions: 2x12
Stretching

3-27-09 (around 6 hours after last workout):
Precore: 5 minute warmup, 10 minutes of intervals. Plus walked the track a bit.

Had to work out later because there was a car stopped in front of my house, broken down, and i didn't feel comfortable going outside.
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are you still training your upperbody heavy? seems like a great time to really put some size/strength on your upper body.
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Hey Zach! Looks like things are progressing nicely. Patience, Grasshpper.
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3-25-09 (12:30am workout):
bw: 219.5 (yay. -13.5lbs since the start)

Foam Rolling: lower, hips, thoracic, etc

Dynamic Warmup: flew through this. It's getting easier and easier!

Acute Corrective: 3 sets of each. Psoas is getting nice and loose. I'm
able to raise my knee above my hip without my hip and psoas feeling like it's going to seize up.

Training:

A1. Plate Squat: 25x12x2 These felt great. No hip pain and good mobility. I even lowered the box another inch on the second set.
A2: Prisoner Step Ups: bwx12x2
A3: Face Pulls: green bandx15x2

B1: Kneeling Cable Row: purplex12x2
B2: Kneeling Cable Push: purplex15x2
B3: Side Planks: 5 second holdsx10x2 Did i mention how much i HATE these??

Prone Scaptions: 2x12
Stretching

3-27-09 (around 6 hours after last workout):
Precore: 5 minute warmup, 10 minutes of intervals. Plus walked the track a bit.

Had to work out later because there was a car stopped in front of my house, broken down, and i didn't feel comfortable going outside.
Holy weight loss!
Nice job. Lookit you, all loosey-goosey.
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