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Old 02-04-2007, 04:40 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Dude, now you're getting me involved in this international affair. :p
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I've said this before and I'll say it again, we're bigger and we're on top. If this were prison, you'd be our bitch.
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:57 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I've said this before and I'll say it again, we're bigger and we're on top. If this were prison, you'd be our bitch.
ooo I'm scared. Are you gonna send your mounties to come get us?
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:10 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I'll enter. I almost got like 330 a few months ago, but i pulled 370 once before like a year ago. Go ahead and put me at 330, and i'll hit 430 before any of you.
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:15 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Pffft. No, you gotta go down for 470. I pulled 495 months ago and at a much higher bw and I still gotta take it. You would win to easy at 430lbs.

Im cringing thinking about my workouts the next few weeks here, Hopefulyl hit a deadlift pr.. Last time I tried pulling sumo I was 10lbs off of a PR, I just couldnt get the lockout. Ive just done about 6 weeks of lockout training so I should be able to fight it and lock out a few new prs.

This is not going to be a quick contest.. Im predicting a summer ending at least..
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:25 PM   #36 (permalink)
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no way bro, i didn't even finish the 330, remember?

Why don't you put me down at 450 then since it's inbetween.
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:27 PM   #37 (permalink)
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ooo I'm scared. Are you gonna send your mounties to come get us?
One day the RCMP will infiltrate the states, and when they do, you'll regret saying that.


Why the drop in weight, Alco? Took some time off?
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One day the RCMP will infiltrate the states, and when they do, you'll regret saying that.


Why the drop in weight, Alco? Took some time off?
i didn't really train my deadlift during that period, and worked on upping my squat....for some reason it went down.
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HAHAHA!

Intimidating, aren't they?
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Old 02-05-2007, 09:33 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Just to recap who's in so Far:
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ParanoidAndroid-300(400)
Frank.S-495(595)
mAtThEw-315(415)
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We can update it every week or so as new people join or as people start moving up.
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:28 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Today:

High Box Squats

140 x 5
220 x 5
320 x 5
410 x 3
420 x 3
x3
x3
x3

Stiff Leg Rack pulls
315 x 3
405 x 3
x3
x3
x3
x3

GHRs
bw x 6
bw+ 12.5 x 6
x6
x6


Was late for a class (that was cancelled...) Did the workout in about 25-30 minutes. Pretty much no rest periods.
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Old 02-05-2007, 02:11 PM   #43 (permalink)
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what are the stiff leg rack pulls...are they reduced ROM SLDLs?
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Old 02-05-2007, 02:29 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Do a regular rack pull, but keep your legs stiff instead of squatting the weight up. More carryover for most people.
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Old 02-05-2007, 02:55 PM   #45 (permalink)
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OK. Maybe I'll try some today, I'm doing rack pulls anyways.
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Regular rack pulls I find work more quads while the stiff legs is more lowerback, hams. I have bad conventional deadlift form (sumo is getting there though..) so I end up using mostly my back anyway.. may as well train it I figure.

595lbs is not going to come easy, but if I keep with my plan ive put to paper here, it should come eventually im not to worried about it. I know if I were to 'bulk' again, I could be hitting 550+ in just a couple weeks.. As tempting as that is, im not going to do that.
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Just to recap who's in so Far:
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Regular rack pulls I find work more quads while the stiff legs is more lowerback, hams. I have bad conventional deadlift form (sumo is getting there though..) so I end up using mostly my back anyway.. may as well train it I figure.

595lbs is not going to come easy, but if I keep with my plan ive put to paper here, it should come eventually im not to worried about it. I know if I were to 'bulk' again, I could be hitting 550+ in just a couple weeks.. As tempting as that is, im not going to do that.
rack pulls for me are all PC, especially my lower back.

Whats your plan?

I hear you on bulking...When I eat big its almost drug-like. I'm eating more now and my numbers are going up faster(although theyre still low)
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Was late for a class (that was cancelled...) Did the workout in about 25-30 minutes. Pretty much no rest periods.
That's a helluva lot of weight to move with no rest. Nice work.
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65 pounds in just a couple weeks?

You son of a B!! :p
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Old 02-05-2007, 08:37 PM   #52 (permalink)
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PM workout

Sumo deads
135 x 10
225 x 10
315 x 10
335 x 10

Chinups
bw x 8
bw + 10 x 8
bw x 6

Hammer Curls
50 x 8
40 x 8
40 x 8

Standing Abs
stack x 20
x 20

Some curls and such.

Havnt pulled off the ground in around 2 months I think?? Havnt pulled sumo for a damn long time either. Those lifts were easy. 405 x 10-15 with belt and chalk I figure.

Im trying 2 workouts per day, 3 days per week. Nap inbetween workouts. I figure, I have the time, and the dedication, so why not try something like this. 2 days are lowerbody focused. This should really bring up my GPP. Not going to use any powerlifting gear most likely for the next three weeks, more or less, im getting my body ready to go through one hell of a stretch here

And matthew.. I have no problem gaining weight if I want to, I find that leverage helps a fair amount on the deadlift so that could have something to do with it.
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that looks brutal, especially the sumos. Deads for reps suck. Are you sticking to higher reps to avoid CNS fatigue?
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Well, I took that into consideration. In all honestly, I 'should' be able to pull more then I do given what I can squat imo. With 10 reps the weight is light enough to really focus on 'throwing' the hips up. Plus as my body gets fatigued on sumo deads, my form actually improves (I lift with my back, so when my back gets tired, I start lifting with my legs).

I really like pulling sumo better, Im 90% sure I can pull more sumo right now anyway so im going to stick to it for this training cycle for lifts off of the ground.

I dont mind deadlifts for reps, My grip usually gives before my body though. Id rather deadlift for reps then bench for reps anyday haha.
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I dont mind deadlifts for reps, My grip usually gives before my body though. Id rather deadlift for reps then bench for reps anyday haha.
I could bench all day long...
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me too...
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Ive broken both wrists and dislocated my elbow and shoulder,

Benching is not ideal for me haha.
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How fitting. I'm chasing 315 lbs. I recall last December when I tried pulling 255, and I just couldn't. So now I'm pissed off, because I've been stuck at 245 lbs for over six months. That's unacceptable.

Current: 245 lbs
Goal: 345 lbs

What's thirty more pounds? Let's do it.
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What's your program, Tim Tim? Maybe we can help.
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I cant put it in words how sore my upperback (traps and scalpula area) is today.

Here is my 3-week training cycle if anyone cares:

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high Box Squats
Rack Pulls sl
GHRS
Lunges


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10 rep deads (2-3 sets)
Chinups
Hammer Curls
ABS
curls

Wed)
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Plyo Pushups
Overhead Locks
Face Pulls
Military Press

PM:
10 rep DB Presses
Rear Delts
Extensions
Upright Rows (big set)

Fri)
Box Jumps
10 single DL's at 80-90%
GHR 5 x 5
Reverse Hypers
ABS 1

PM:
Paused Leg Press
Pullups
High Rep leg Extensions
DB side raises

-3 hour nap between workouts.
-4000cals minimum on workouts days.

I realise that I am missing a few movement planes in there (horizontal pull the main one). This for shoudler health actually, my back is much stronger then my front. I fully realise that most of you guys are going to get laugh at this program, but really, its just upping my back/leg GPP to levels that I feel are good enough to get onto more specialized training.
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