I have the book and I am considering adding this style of lift into my lifting. I am trying to lose weight so I would do a main lift 5/3/1 style and then follow it up with some circuits and stuff.
I just wondered if anyone was doing 5/3/1 and if they were getting decent results.
We have a few of our guys doing it, they seem to like it, but the only consistent complaint has been lack of total volume. But, overall our younger guys are doing quite well with it
I'm reading about it and it seems awfully straight-forward. I'm not being cheap. I'd happily give Jim Wendler some scratch, but I'm just too poor to get the book at this time. But, it really doesn't seem like there is a lot that needs to be discussed. Is there some subtlety that I'm missing?
Wendler talks about supplementing with oly lifts. He suggesting doing them before your main lifting. It's very spelled out for you: one day is squats, one is deads, one is BP and one is MP.
I agree. Get the book. Its worth it. I have been doing it the last while and have enjoyed it quite a bit. I get a good workout in minimal time and strength is coming back as well.
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i would suggest getting the book as well. You can do the program without, as all the information is pretty much available online on elitefts and other sites, but it's nice to have all the info in one spot, and all your questions answered on one spot.
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Just buy the book! I don't think you'd figure out from my log why I chose the weights I chose, why I chose the reps I chose, and why I chose the accessory exercises I chose. And, you'd have to look at someone's logs over 4 weeks to even try to copy it all from them. I'm not saying it's a difficult program, but the book lays it out nicely. And, Wendler provides some handy excel formulas to use to make your own spreadsheets and you can just plug in your numbers.
Think of these as four versions of an omelette. If after studying these recipes, you can't make an omelette then buy the book.
Simply place the above "basics" into your favourite programme where the strength slot would be.
I do have to add that if ones intent is to improve their "knowledge" for the sake of their operation/self employment then you can't have too many resources. Books are a cheap investment in your success. Ever notice how many books are behind the desk of the self employed.
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My wife is an olympic lifter and I have been using 5-3-1 for her front and back squats and also her flat back deadlift. It has really kick started her strength levels for her o-lifts
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Originally Posted by Espi
I've not read the book myself but wondered.. can it be used for Oly lifting too or are all the lifts prescribed & geared towards PL?
Thanks, that seals the deal.. am racking up several books I want to purchase.
Have done waveloading in the past but would actually waveload all patterns, like 10-8-6-10-8-6 or 7-6-5-7-6-5 etc.. and even occasionally 8-1-8-1 so it will be interesting to see Wendler's views on that type of higher rep waves.
Thanks, that seals the deal.. am racking up several books I want to purchase.
Have done waveloading in the past but would actually waveload all patterns, like 10-8-6-10-8-6 or 7-6-5-7-6-5 etc.. and even occasionally 8-1-8-1 so it will be interesting to see Wendler's views on that type of higher rep waves.
you don't do waveloads or any of that crap on 5/3/1. just simple linear periodization.
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yeah Jim Wendler pretty much wrote the book that I should have wrote many years ago. He has that same style that I have used for 30 years, just keep it simple, work hard and keep forcing yourself forward. I actuallly turn a lot of my clients on to it just to give them a simple set and rep scheme to follow.