The latest Journal of Strength & Conditioning has an interesting article on the training methods Elite British powerlifters (abstract).
I'm not really plugged into the PL world, but found it interesting that in discussion of training methods the authors found 69% of the PLers (32 lifters competing at the 4 Nations competition) surveyed used Oly movements in training. In particular the power clean and high pull were the most used.
57% used chains, 39% used bands, but only 46% used box squats - something that surprised me as that lift seems ubiquitous in PL info in the U.S.
For those more familiar with PLing are there significant differences in approach between lifters there and here? Are more PLers in the US doing Oly movements these days?
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The latest Journal of Strength & Conditioning has an interesting article on the training methods Elite British powerlifters (abstract).
I'm not really plugged into the PL world, but found it interesting that in discussion of training methods the authors found 69% of the PLers (32 lifters competing at the 4 Nations competition) surveyed used Oly movements in training. In particular the power clean and high pull were the most used.
57% used chains, 39% used bands, but only 46% used box squats - something that surprised me as that lift seems ubiquitous in PL info in the U.S.
For those more familiar with PLing are there significant differences in approach between lifters there and here? Are more PLers in the US doing Oly movements these days?
I am pretty out of the Powerlifting loop also, but from what I remember, non-US countries tend to much more heavily slanted to the IPF as a PLing Fed rather than WPO which is a bit more American. IPF doesn't allow the same amount of gear for suits and bench shirts, so most lifters use a more upright, high bar position squat. This probably has something to do with the preference. I am sure there are other reasons also, but I am way out of the loop.
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you have to define what oly lifts are, as well. are they the classic lifts, or variations? You may see them doing something like high pulls to replace speed deadlifts. It seems like at least half of them follow the conjugated protocol, or are at least familiar with westside if they're using bands and chains. So, chances are, they are doing things like power cleans or high pulls, and not snatches.
I would bet if they took a poll of elite power lifters in the US, at least 80% would use box squats in some shape or form, probably 20% or less would use oly variations, and 60-70% would use bands or chains in some form.
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I am pretty out of the Powerlifting loop also, but from what I remember, non-US countries tend to much more heavily slanted to the IPF as a PLing Fed rather than WPO which is a bit more American. IPF doesn't allow the same amount of gear for suits and bench shirts, so most lifters use a more upright, high bar position squat. This probably has something to do with the preference. I am sure there are other reasons also, but I am way out of the loop.
Danny
This.
Outside of the US you aren't dealing with the crazy equipment use you see in most of the North American feds. Makes the training a bit different.
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IPF doesn't allow the same amount of gear for suits and bench shirts, so most lifters use a more upright, high bar position squat.
I like the idea that if you can't lift it without gear then you really can't lift it. Guess that explains why I'm not in that world
A raw meet might be fun to do sometime.
Alco - yes the two most prominent lifts done in that study were power cleans and high pulls, for obvious reasons.
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I am pretty out of the Powerlifting loop also, but from what I remember, non-US countries tend to much more heavily slanted to the IPF as a PLing Fed rather than WPO which is a bit more American. IPF doesn't allow the same amount of gear for suits and bench shirts, so most lifters use a more upright, high bar position squat. This probably has something to do with the preference. I am sure there are other reasons also, but I am way out of the loop.
Danny
Nah, you want to keep the bar position as low as possible in any federation. You just generally can't squat as wide without the extra equipment, and you have to squat alot deeper.
Nah, you want to keep the bar position as low as possible in any federation. You just generally can't squat as wide without the extra equipment, and you have to squat alot deeper.
Tell jeremy frey and chuck vogelpohl that
alot of lifters are having success with wide stance high bar squats these days. ive converted to a high bar position because i can stay more upright in the hole. Even raw I am much stronger with an upright position. The problem is most people don't really have the 'yoke' to properlly support more then about 600lbs high bar.
Maybe that's why your elbow pain went away Frank, you switched to high bar.
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Study: Elite PLers using Oly lifts
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