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Old 12-17-2008, 03:39 PM   #31 (permalink)
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this is in the log section because the forum says to sign in every time i try to post something in the sm/pl section and thenit still wont let me post anything!!
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Heyy Frank S. remeber what you told me everyone is different if it work for you it works, i think my workout will work for me because i would be doing more event training but at the moment my gym doesnt have any euipment for strongman so that is why i will squat, bench, and OH press 2 times a week.


When i played football we did for example for bench

bench, incline, db bench, back, tricep superset.


and i got good strenght gains from that i believe i can get great strenght gains from this!!!



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Heyy Frank S. remeber what you told me everyone is different if it work for you it works, i think my workout will work for me because i would be doing some event training, i would do more event training but at the moment my gym doesnt have any euipment for strongman so that is why i will squat, bench, and OH press 2 times a week.


When i played football we did for example for bench

bench, incline, db bench, back, tricep superset.


and i got good strenght gains from that i believe i can get great strenght gains from this!!!



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heyy is this better??

-Monday


Back Squat
Warm-up: 2 sets
Work sets: 4 sets reps going from 6 down to 1

Leg press: 4 sets 6-10 reps

Leg Curl (for hamstrings)
6 sets of 20 reps

Leg Extension (for quads)
6 sets of 20 reps

Pull Up/ chin ups
6 sets of 15 reps

Behind-the-neck Pulldowns/ pulldowns
4 work sets of 15 reps

seated rows/ barbell rows
4 work sets of 15 reps

Abs: 6 sets of 30 reps
exercises used (haging leg raise, bends, various)

-Tuesday
Front Squats
2 sets warm up
4 sets work 6-1

Calf Work
6 sets of 15 reps

Standing Military Press
Warm-up sets - 2
Work sets - 4 6-1reps

db press 2 sets 10 reps

Deadlifts
Warm-up sets - 2 sets
Work sets - 4 sets 6-1 reps

Good Mornings
4 sets 6-10 reps

Shrugs 4 sets 10-2 reps

-Wednesday event training - 4 sets each

one arm snatches 20 -30 reps each arm
power stairs/parallel stairs -
overhead press on machine on axle 10-30 reps each arm

Grip work

Abs 6 sets 30 reps

- -Thursday
Bench Press
Warm-up sets -2 sets
Work sets - 4 sets 8-2 reps

Incline bench 2 sets warm up
2 sets work 8-2 reps

Close grip bench press/ floor press 4 sets 8-2 reps
Barbell Extensions: 5 sets 10 reps
tricep extensions: 5 sets 10 reps
bb curl: 5 sets 10-2 reps
db curl: 5 sets 10 reps


Abs 6 sets 30 reps

-Friday
clean and press 10-30 reps
Farmers walk- walk around the gym
parallel crucifix - hold for 30 seconds

grip work-
hangs for 30-90 seconds no straps



Abs 6 sets 30 reps

---Saturday:
Bench 6 sets 6-1
Squat 6 sets 6-1
Behind the neck press 6 sets 6-1
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What events and weights do you need to be able to do?

What can u lift now?, What do you suck at most?

when you know the answers then you can base your training around
what u specifically need to improve.

dont just throw a bunch of movements together and hope it works
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heyy is this better??

-Monday


Back Squat
Warm-up: 2 sets
Work sets: 4 sets reps going from 6 down to 1

Leg press: 4 sets 6-10 reps

Leg Curl (for hamstrings)
6 sets of 20 reps

Leg Extension (for quads)
6 sets of 20 reps

Pull Up/ chin ups
6 sets of 15 reps

Behind-the-neck Pulldowns/ pulldowns
4 work sets of 15 reps

seated rows/ barbell rows
4 work sets of 15 reps

Abs: 6 sets of 30 reps
exercises used (haging leg raise, bends, various)
don't do x number of warmups. Warm up until you're warm. then work up.

I don't like the pyramiding down. Do straight work sets. Do whatever rep ranges you want, and stick with it until you can't progress anymore. So, do 4x6, 5x5 or 3x8 with a manageable weight, add 10lbs the next week, etc etc.

Then, when you can't progress anymore, change the rep ranges and/or the main movement

You don't need all that isolation crap if you're doing enough weight on the squats. Just squat, and then eat!

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Front Squats
2 sets warm up
4 sets work 6-1

Calf Work
6 sets of 15 reps

Standing Military Press
Warm-up sets - 2
Work sets - 4 6-1reps

db press 2 sets 10 reps

Deadlifts
Warm-up sets - 2 sets
Work sets - 4 sets 6-1 reps

Good Mornings
4 sets 6-10 reps

Shrugs 4 sets 10-2 reps
too much stuff

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-Wednesday event training - 4 sets each

one arm snatches 20 -30 reps each arm
power stairs/parallel stairs -
overhead press on machine on axle 10-30 reps each arm

Grip work

Abs 6 sets 30 reps
why are you doing these exercises? why power stairs? Hardly any contests even use power stairs.

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Bench Press
Warm-up sets -2 sets
Work sets - 4 sets 8-2 reps

Incline bench 2 sets warm up
2 sets work 8-2 reps

Close grip bench press/ floor press 4 sets 8-2 reps
Barbell Extensions: 5 sets 10 reps
tricep extensions: 5 sets 10 reps
bb curl: 5 sets 10-2 reps
db curl: 5 sets 10 reps


Abs 6 sets 30 reps

-Friday
clean and press 10-30 reps
Farmers walk- walk around the gym
parallel crucifix - hold for 30 seconds

grip work-
hangs for 30-90 seconds no straps



Abs 6 sets 30 reps

---Saturday:
Bench 6 sets 6-1
Squat 6 sets 6-1
Behind the neck press 6 sets 6-1

ok. here's what i would do. If you're asking for advice, this is what i would do for off season (this winter), 2 week waves. This is assuming you don't do olympic lifts.

Monday:

Squats:
5x5 (either do straight weight for 5 sets, or pyramid up. Just make sure you're adding 10lbs to each set next workout).

then pick 2 exercises, and do 4 sets of them for higher reps
Lunges, back raises, good mornings, one leg squats, glute ham raises, shrugs, stiff leg deadlifts

Wed:

Push Press: up to a heavy 3-5 rep set. Then drop the weight down and do some down sets

then do a bench movement, either floor presses, close grip bench, or incline. Something that hits the tris and shoulders.

Then a type of upper back or row; pullups/chins, face pulls, seated rows, bent over rows

Fri:

Squat:
4x5, 1x3, 1x8
add 10 lbs to each set you did, but on the last one, go for 3 reps, then drop down to the weight you did on your 3rd set, and try and hit it for 8 reps.

then pick 2 exercises, and do 4 sets of them for higher reps
Lunges, back raises, good mornings, one leg squats, glute ham raises, shrugs, stiff leg deadlifts


Then, wk 2:

Mon:
Overhead Press: work up to a set of higher reps

then do a bench movement, and row

Wed:

Squat: 5x5
Do the same workout you did last friday, but make sure you're hitting the last set for 5 reps

assistance work, 2 exercises

Friday:

Bench: work up to a heavy set of 3-5 reps
Overhead: strict press
Row


That's it. It's a lot lower than the volume you're doing before. It serves no purpose. You don't need all that work. You're going to see a good amount of size if you eat, and squat, press and row heavy on a low volume after you've been doing high for so long. Not only that, but you'll see some good strength increases.

you'll see a lot more benefit to doing squats than deadlifts. Deadlifts week after week will wear you down. Doing something like squats and stiff leg or romanian deadlifts works really well, because you're building up all the muscles needed to deadlift heavy, without stressing your CNS with heavy pulls week after week.
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ok it works now thanks!!!!
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This a little better???


-Monday


Back Squat
Warm-up: 2 sets
Work sets: 4 sets reps going from 6 down to 1

Leg Curl (for hamstrings)
6 sets of 20 reps

Leg Extension (for quads)
6 sets of 20 reps

Pull Up/ chin ups
6 sets of 15 reps

seated rows/ barbell rows
4 work sets of 15 reps

Abs: 6 sets of 30 reps
exercises used (haging leg raise, bends, various)

-Tuesday
Front Squats
2 sets warm up
4 sets work 6-1

Calf Work
6 sets of 15 reps

Standing Military Press
Warm-up sets - 2
Work sets - 4 6-1reps

Deadlifts
Warm-up sets - 2 sets
Work sets - 4 sets 6-1 reps

Good Mornings
4 sets 6-10 reps

Shrugs 4 sets 10-2 reps

-Wednesday event training - 4 sets each

one arm snatches 20 -30 reps each arm
power stairs/parallel stairs or medley
viking press 10-30 reps each arm

Grip work

Abs 6 sets 30 reps

- -Thursday
Bench Press
Warm-up sets -2 sets
Work sets - 4 sets 8-2 reps

close grip Incline bench/ incline lockouts
4 sets work 8-2 reps

Barbell Extensions: 5 sets 10 reps
tricep extensions: 5 sets 10 reps
BB curl : 5 sets 10-2 reps
DB curl: 3 sets 10- 15 reps

Abs 6 sets 30 reps

-Friday
clean and press 10-30 reps
Farmers walk- walk around the gym
parallel crucifix - hold for 30 seconds

grip work-
hangs for 30-90 seconds no straps



Abs 6 sets 30 reps

---Saturday:
Bench 6 sets 6-1
Squat 6 sets 6-1
Behind the neck press/ OH Press 6 sets 6-1

Sunday: depends on how i feel

walk with bar like conans wheel
sandbag carry
medley



ive tried the 5x5, 1x8 thing before and i didnt really like it, always felt that pyramiding sets always worked best for me!!
Is this better there is less volume involved now!!

Maybe i shouldnt the anything on sunday and get rid of that day??

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Hard to train heavy seven days a week, I hear.
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Probably a little overkill to do 4 sets of close grip incline bench, and then follow it with 18 sets of isolation bicep and tricep work.
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what if i did 3 sets of close grip incline bench, do 4 sets of standing BB extensions? or work up to a certain heavy weight, and do 3 sets of tricep pushdowns,


Or should i get rid of close grip incline bench,,




Should i train on Saturday Bench, Squat, and overhead press,
or should i just train Bench, squat, and OH press once a week in the gym????, and i should probaby get rid of the event training on sunday, or split those in between wednesday's and fridays' event training???





But otherwise my routine is all set, right???
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But otherwise my routine is all set, right???
I'm not crazy about it, but what do I know...
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also what should my rep range be for event training or should i just set up a stop watch and try beating a certain time, and if so how long??, 30 seconds, 60 seconds??? 40, 50 90?? etc
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alcoholiday do you think this is better?? and can you tell me if i should also do bench squat, OH press on saturday???
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i already told you what i think you should do, and you choose to ignore it...

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64 seconds sounds about right.

You realize you are squatting heavy 3 times in a 4 day span? (Saturday, Monday, Tuesday)
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well that matters, should i have saturday and sunday off and only back squat, bench, and OH ptrdd one time a week???
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Should i do heavy back squats, bench, and overhead press 2 or 1 time a week????
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Patience. Obviously you don't like the suggestions that have already been made, so maybe someone new will chime in.
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Try this-

Monday a.m.-

8 sets back squat, working up to 1RM
3 x 10 hack squat
3 x 10 leg extensions
3 x 10 leg curls
3 x 10 calf raises
3 x 10 lunges with dumbells

Monday p.m.

1 set 20 widowmaker back squats- pick a weight that will make you vomit


Tuesday a.m.

Front squats, 8 sets, working up to 3 RM
Front squat / smith machine squats supersets 5 sets of 12, 30 second rest period between sets
bosu ball dumbell squats, 5 sets of 12

Tuesday p.m.

dumbell hammer curls 10 sets of 10
preacher curls 5 sets of 5
reverse curls 4 sets of 10
21s- you take a moderately heavy weight on an EZ curl bar, rep 7 times half way up- then rep 7 times from half-way up to the top, then 7 full curls- do this set 3 times

WEdnesday a.m.

Heavy bench, 10 sets, up to 5 singles at 95% of 1 RM
incline dumbell, 3 sets of 12
decline dumbell, 3 sets of 12
cable flies, 4 sets of 15
pec deck, 4 sets of 14
dips with 90 pounds + bw, 3 sets of however many you can get

WEdnesday p.m.

Incline barbell bench, 3 sets of 12
decline barbell, close grip, 3 sets of 10
tricep kickbacks (dumbell) 3 sets of 15, supersetted with cable rope pushdowns, 3 sets of 15
skullcrushers- 5 sets of 5

Thursday a.m.

exactly the same as Wed. morning


Thursday p.m.

off

Friday a.m

event training,-

using dumbells for farmer's walk and walk around indoor track
tire flip, using 45 pound plate since we don't have a , around the track


Friday p.m.

EZ bar curls 12 sets of 72, supersetted with skullcrushers, 12 sets of 72
abs

(this works perfect, because it's friday evening and you'll be ready for going out friday night)

Saturday a.m.

off

Saturday p.m.

Incline flies, 4 sets of 10
decline flies, 4 sets of 10
regular flies, 4 sets of 10
pushups 'til failure


Sunday a.m.

Bench press 5 sets of 15
decline barbell 3 sets of 10
incline barbell 3 sets of 10
tricep kickbacks 3 sets of 10
cable rope pulldowns 5 sets of 20

Sunday p.m.

off to avoid overtraining
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i am patient, except can you tell me if its better to train back squat, bench, and overhead press 1 or 2 times a week??? which will get you stronger??
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Imagine how awesome you will look friday night after those curls and skullcrushers.
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Imagine how awesome you will look friday night after those curls and skullcrushers.
I have set up a similar split for myself to take advantage of the swole.
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Try this-

Monday a.m.-

8 sets back squat, working up to 1RM
3 x 10 hack squat
3 x 10 leg extensions
3 x 10 leg curls
3 x 10 calf raises
3 x 10 lunges with dumbells

Monday p.m.

1 set 20 widowmaker back squats- pick a weight that will make you vomit


Tuesday a.m.

Front squats, 8 sets, working up to 3 RM
Front squat / smith machine squats supersets 5 sets of 12, 30 second rest period between sets
bosu ball dumbell squats, 5 sets of 12

Tuesday p.m.

dumbell hammer curls 10 sets of 10
preacher curls 5 sets of 5
reverse curls 4 sets of 10
21s- you take a moderately heavy weight on an EZ curl bar, rep 7 times half way up- then rep 7 times from half-way up to the top, then 7 full curls- do this set 3 times

WEdnesday a.m.

Heavy bench, 10 sets, up to 5 singles at 95% of 1 RM
incline dumbell, 3 sets of 12
decline dumbell, 3 sets of 12
cable flies, 4 sets of 15
pec deck, 4 sets of 14
dips with 90 pounds + bw, 3 sets of however many you can get

WEdnesday p.m.

Incline barbell bench, 3 sets of 12
decline barbell, close grip, 3 sets of 10
tricep kickbacks (dumbell) 3 sets of 15, supersetted with cable rope pushdowns, 3 sets of 15
skullcrushers- 5 sets of 5

Thursday a.m.

exactly the same as Wed. morning


Thursday p.m.

off

Friday a.m

event training,-

using dumbells for farmer's walk and walk around indoor track
tire flip, using 45 pound plate since we don't have a , around the track


Friday p.m.

EZ bar curls 12 sets of 72, supersetted with skullcrushers, 12 sets of 72
abs

(this works perfect, because it's friday evening and you'll be ready for going out friday night)

Saturday a.m.

off

Saturday p.m.

Incline flies, 4 sets of 10
decline flies, 4 sets of 10
regular flies, 4 sets of 10
pushups 'til failure


Sunday a.m.

Bench press 5 sets of 15
decline barbell 3 sets of 10
incline barbell 3 sets of 10
tricep kickbacks 3 sets of 10
cable rope pulldowns 5 sets of 20

Sunday p.m.

off to avoid overtraining
OMG. this is an awesome split. Forget 5x5, i'm doing this shit!
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OMG. this is an awesome split. Forget 5x5, i'm doing this shit!
Just make sure you do some cycles of creatine so you can see the real results. Remember, 50 grams per day the first week, then you cycle off.
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:38 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Physical Advancement - strongman routine - also in main forum


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