it's hard to tell if it's really wrist flexibility or shoulder flexibility without seeing. If i was to venture a guess, i'd say shoulder since you bench a lot. My shoulders are flexible enough to hold a front squat and clean, but if my elbows are low, they're not enough.
Plus, if you can hold the bar now, and your elbows aren't high enough, i'd venture that it's not wrists, but i could be wrong.
Are you able to rack a front squat w/ a clean grip?
check this out. Specifically what Danny and i said..
For those that have had problems with wrist flexibility while using a clean grip, what have you done to help it?
I can hold the bar, but cant keep my elbows high enough right now.
I was thinking of just stretching them 2-3x per day for a few weeks and see where this gets me, but maybe there are better solutions?
Stick your thumb in your armpit, point fingers up, grab your elbow and push it up. Helps a ton. Also, try pressing your elbow in toward each other somewhat when you've racked it.
The main thing that helps though is just repeating, repeating, and repeating; you'll loosen up with time.
Just realized I was dealing with the elbow height side of things more than your actual question... but it will still help you get your elbows up, at any rate.
Anyone else find it heavily ironic that Frank gave advice on that thread?
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Here is my weird thing, i can hold the bar in the correct position if i only do it one hand at a time, i cannot get the bar to my shoulders if i use both hands. What i was doing before was using a broomstick and dong 1-arm at a time.
does it sound like it could be a shoulder flexibility thing?
Anyone else find it heavily ironic that Frank gave advice on that thread?
Yes, yes I did.
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Hey, it sounds like half decent advise!
Here is my weird thing, i can hold the bar in the correct position if i only do it one hand at a time, i cannot get the bar to my shoulders if i use both hands. What i was doing before was using a broomstick and dong 1-arm at a time.
does it sound like it could be a shoulder flexibility thing?
Yeah, sounds like shoulder limiting you to me! Either way, doing the same stretches is probably what will help, try both arms at a time too!
Here is my weird thing, i can hold the bar in the correct position if i only do it one hand at a time, i cannot get the bar to my shoulders if i use both hands. What i was doing before was using a broomstick and dong 1-arm at a time.
does it sound like it could be a shoulder flexibility thing?
Oftentimes, I find that the lats are what limit people in a clean grip. IF you have the wrist flexibility to hold it, but you cant do that and get your elbows up, then the lats are usually the culprit.
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I warm up my wrist by doing circles and streching and then try to get into a full rack position needed in the clean/ front squat- spend time getting comfortable- that has helped my wrist issue.
I was told by my new trainer to actually grip the barbell properly for the 'clean-style grip'.
There's a big difference between what you need for front squats, where the only requirement is to keep the bb from rolling off your chest and finger tips are enough versus gripping it so that you can do a push press or jerking it up , so as to perform the entire C&J. For the latter , a firm grip is a must.
I was told by my new trainer to actually grip the barbell properly for the 'clean-style grip'.
There's a big difference between what you need for front squats, where the only requirement is to keep the bb from rolling off your chest and finger tips are enough versus gripping it so that you can do a push press or jerking it up , so as to perform the entire C&J. For the latter , a firm grip is a must.
Interesting.
My comments on the topic of weightlifting is totally amateur, but:
- it does not matter, because Frank does front squats, not jerks, right?
- YouTube - Pyrros Dimas in Sidney 2000 (2) is it me, or does he open his fingers?
- I totally agree that front squats and C&J are different. that's why we have the crossed arm grip on front squats.
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it's the same style, you just need the bar to rest as close to the palm as comfortable for jerks. The bar is still resting on your front delts for both, and there should not be pressure on your wrists.
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