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Old 07-02-2008, 12:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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TESTOSTERONE NATION - 9 Great Secrets of Training Success

Pretty good, and I'm looking forward to the rest of the article that should be up soon. It's funny - a lot of these things I'm doing now- i.e. focusing on a weakness, etc.

But, that's after 10 years of lifting and just not doing these things. There's also been plenty of other articles that say similar things to this.

Why don't a lot of us make these changes right away? Lazy? Not enough desire? I don't know. I thought I had desire to change my body comp and strength levels, but apparently not enough to monitor caloric intake, etc. Weird. It's almost like an alcy that has to hit rock bottom before they'll change. (not to get all Shugart 'Phoenix' on you guys)
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Old 07-02-2008, 01:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I agree. Dave Tate has a way of putting things into perspective. His views work under the iron as well as in life in general. Just when one thinks their good at something, realize that someone else makes that person suck and they should continue to work to improve. At the same time, that same same person can be encouraging to others when they hit PRs in the weight room or becoming a mentor for young people at the office trying to advance in their careers.
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Old 07-03-2008, 10:38 AM   #3 (permalink)
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TESTOSTERONE NATION - Shut the Hell Up and Listen

Part two.

Plenty of Matt K. references for those of us in awe of him.

Biggest point to hit home for me?

"The things you hate to do are the things you need to do most. Are you doing them?"
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Great read. Dave is the man.
I love the 'do what you hate' stuff. Its so true... shit, i need to do more good mornings now.


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His analogy on program design and driving on a highway made a lot of sense. I like how his philosophies applies to just about every aspect of life.
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Do something you hate? That's the dumbest shit I ever heard. How about, "Do something that gets results"

I was too lazy to read much of the articles though haha, but might get around to that later
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Do something you hate? That's the dumbest shit I ever heard. How about, "Do something that gets results"

I was too lazy to read much of the articles though haha, but might get around to that later
The point is that people that don't progress or are stalling are often not focusing on something because they don't like doing it- like ab work in Dave's case in his example in the article.

Look at every single skinny person that says they can't gain weight. They all want a magic workout routine, but when someone suggests they closely monitor their caloric intake, they say "I don't want to get in to counting calories, etc. I know I eat a lot, so that's good enough". Then, a year later, they can't figure out why the weigh the same and are the same size.

Or you could just rip the thought process while not actually reading about it.

You can tell people to do stuff that gets results, but most of the time they don't want to do what they need to do to get results because they don't like doing it. I.E., do what you hate.
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Do something you hate? That's the dumbest shit I ever heard. How about, "Do something that gets results"

I was too lazy to read much of the articles though haha, but might get around to that later
For me, if i hate something, its a weakness.

I used to HATE back work. Felt useless to me. My whole back was weak as shit, i doubt i could do 5 bw pullups.. I hit every other movement, every day that i trained, as a back movement (DB rows, BB rows, pullups, etc etc) for 3-4 months. My left lat atually bled during rows once because i broke open a stretch mark.

End result = much stronger back and its no longer a weakness. I'm back to training it maybe 2 movements per week (sometimes onle 1) and its not holding me back anymore.
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Doing what you hate doing in theory has no value, but in the real world something you hate to do and something that bring results are one and the same. It sucks, but hey, if it wasn't true everybody would be monster strong, insanely rich etc!

It's also nice to see a "redundant" (in that it has been said before, but should be said again) article that doesn't tell you to active stretch your hips!
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