eye opening, i had no idea that i could even be near 40% bf when i was 250lbs.. I thought i was closer to 20% as i could still see some abs and my legs still had veins in them.
You're smokin' dope (or someone is) if you think you were anywhere near 40%...fatty.
eye opening, i had no idea that i could even be near 40% bf when i was 250lbs.. I thought i was closer to 20% as i could still see some abs and my legs still had veins in them.
I hate to interrupt your hissy fit, since you are obviously very proud of it.
Who exactly told you that you had to have been 40% bodyfat at 250 lbs? That would be 150 lbs lbm at 5'9" which is not the limit implied by the FFMI study.
Also, if you really want to prove your point, just post some pictures in the thread on BR. A picture is worth 1000 words. If PMDL sees you at 250 with vascularity in your legs (despite curiously having no visible vascularity in your arms at the completion of a maximum effort deadlift in a condition you have described as being significantly leaner) then he will have to eat his words.
uh.... then stop please with all the whining and hissy fits. You are a PLer, not a bber. You don't care enough to have somone take a pic so stop caring already. you are obviously happy with the way that you look. Continue to be proud and happy with your fatness along with your strongness. The two go hand-in-hand and is what being a good PLer is all about. Seems to me you are right on target.
BTW: As a bber, I am going through a cut now and my strength has gone to shit. So I am giving up strength in order to have lean. You are giving up lean to have strength. You can call me "candyass" and I will call you "fatass". It's all good.
Going to agree that calipers are really not a good tool to judge bf, but they are good to judge progress if done by the same person.
Last summer my mom went to a clinic for weight loss, she took me there to meet the hed doc and for shits n giggles he hooked me up to this gizmo. No idea what it was called, but it hooked up to my finger and my feet and ran a current threw my body. After about a minute or so I had a piece of paper that told me my LBM, which was actual muscle, smooth muscle(organs), water, intracellular water and bone(side note, my bone density was off the charts for my height and weight). It had my clocked in at 12.4% bf. Three days earlier I was test below 10 on calipers.
and GqArt, what is the BR thread? And I have posted full photos of myself numerous times throughout the years here in my old logs.
BTW: As a bber, I am going through a cut now and my strength has gone to shit. So I am giving up strength in order to have lean. You are giving up lean to have strength. You can call me "candyass" and I will call you "fatass". It's all good.
You know, I have never ever figured this out. I have gone through "maintenance" phases before where I have lost bf and maintained strength. But every time I actually go full on into a "cut" I feel like I have been sapped. It has made me conclude that extreme bulking and cutting does more harm than good. Hence my reasoning behind my 14 months bulk where I plan to gain only about 15 lbs.
Going to agree that calipers are really not a good tool to judge bf, but they are good to judge progress if done by the same person.
Last summer my mom went to a clinic for weight loss, she took me there to meet the hed doc and for shits n giggles he hooked me up to this gizmo. No idea what it was called, but it hooked up to my finger and my feet and ran a current threw my body. After about a minute or so I had a piece of paper that told me my LBM, which was actual muscle, smooth muscle(organs), water, intracellular water and bone(side note, my bone density was off the charts for my height and weight). It had my clocked in at 12.4% bf. Three days earlier I was test below 10 on calipers.
and GqArt, what is the BR thread? And I have posted full photos of myself numerous times throughout the years here in my old logs.
The link was posted by PowerManDL on the previous page. The thing you got tested with sounds like a bio-impedence device. This is what my ORMON is all about. It is really only good for overall trends and will vary greatly based on your hydration level.
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You know, I have never ever figured this out. I have gone through "maintenance" phases before where I have lost bf and maintained strength. But every time I actually go full on into a "cut" I feel like I have been sapped. It has made me conclude that extreme bulking and cutting does more harm than good. Hence my reasoning behind my 14 months bulk where I plan to gain only about 15 lbs.
I still think a large part is mental though.
Slower is better for sure. I am doing a very long cut targeting about 1lb a week. Even so the strength is starting to drop. Nothing to figure out about it though. Being strong requires food. While some of it is probably mental most of it is pretty much just about how the body works.
Karla, no offense here, but since when are you a bodybuilder? You keep referring to yourself as a bber, yet you only started lifting weights 7 months ago and have never competed. How does that make you a bodybuilder? One bulk and one cut does not give you enough experience IMO ...
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Karla, no offense here, but since when are you a bodybuilder? You keep referring to yourself as a bber, yet you only started lifting weights 7 months ago and have never competed. How does that make you a bodybuilder? One bulk and one cut does not give you enough experience IMO ...
If i had 170lbs lbm at 222lbs (current) that would make me 24% bf, and 33% at 250lbs. my bad, i must have been thinking 160lbs lbm or something.
I dont care enough to find someone with a camera to take a half naked picture of me, sorry. Even if i did? What would I gain, pmdl saying "steroids!"
Yeah, tough choice here:
1) Anecdote and scientific research from several avenues concludes that there's a genetic ceiling to LBM, and we can predict it within reason.
or
2) Some guys on the internet "don't feel" that's accurate, and have better genetics than 99.999999% of the population. Oh, but he can't be bothered posting a simple picture for evidence, cause it's lame!
It just gets better.
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Karla, no offense here, but since when are you a bodybuilder? You keep referring to yourself as a bber, yet you only started lifting weights 7 months ago and have never competed. How does that make you a bodybuilder? One bulk and one cut does not give you enough experience IMO ...
No offense at all taken Julie and technically speaking I am not a bber yet anymore than the other folks in this thread are. That said I am definately going down that path more than any other in this venture. I am not doing this just for fitness like most of the women in the challenge and I certainly am not doing it for the sake of losing weight. I study bbing, hang out in bbing gyms and go to the local shows to check out the competition. So my goals are bbing as opposed to PLing or Fitness goals.
In the context of this thread and the stuff that I said I am a bber.
If we want to think about it like that, then technically I'm not a powerlifter yet since I haven't competed. Not until 10 days time anyway hah, then I'll be a powerlifter!
Seems like you photographers should take a picture of Frank S then.
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That would describe me exactly, and I definitely consider myself a photographer. I sell my work, but don't come close to making a living from it.
Yes, but how long were you into it before you considered yourself a "photographer"? Was it less than a year?
One does not become an "expert" in anything without significant time spent studying and practicing the "art" (whether it is photography, kettlebell training, tai chi, yoga, watercolors, or bodybuilding). IMO, unless you are an "expert" in something, you shouldn't dispense advice as if it is gospel and you are infallible. JMO however.
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What difference does it make how long someone has been studying something Julie? Give me a break here. You are old enough to know better. A person who has been doing careful study and surrounding themselves with other knowledgeable people can learn more in a half of a year than a person who has been doing the same thing the same way for 10 years. Your definition of an expert seems to be someone who has been practicing that art for a year or more. I think that is definition has all sorts of holes.
At 6 months of classical guitar study I landed and performed my first paid gig. I was invited back every year since then. Was I a "classical guitarist" at that time or not really because it wasn't a year? I was paid for it.... Hmmm...
If I say something incorrectly then go ahead and correct that thing for me so that I learn from it but let us not bring the conversation down to this level of silliness. If you are annoyed with the way I post but the content is okay then that is most probaby your problem.
I have seen every Mr. O competition since I was 14. I was lucky yet unlucky in this regard. I watched one of the greatest Mr. Os EVER dominate to a point where he was literally UNBEATABLE, even by the Oak himself. Sadly, I also witnessed his decline, the destruction of his waistline and fixed victories over guys like Levrone who had him beat.
Is there anyway this sport will be saved? I am a big believer that they should enforce the waist line point deductions they have been talking about, maybe, just maybe we can see guys like Jackson(my current fav at the moment) win one of these rigged shows.
I have seen every Mr. O competition since I was 14. I was lucky yet unlucky in this regard. I watched one of the greatest Mr. Os EVER dominate to a point where he was literally UNBEATABLE, even by the Oak himself. Sadly, I also witnessed his decline, the destruction of his waistline and fixed victories over guys like Levrone who had him beat.
Is there anyway this sport will be saved? I am a big believer that they should enforce the waist line point deductions they have been talking about, maybe, just maybe we can see guys like Jackson(my current fav at the moment) win one of these rigged shows.
Couldn't keep from replying in this thread with this kind of stuff in it. Bodybuilding is slowly going back to aesthetics, as you can see in the new Pro Oleg Yemelyanov.
You're smokin' dope (or someone is) if you think you were anywhere near 40%...fatty.
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