From the strength thread.. Its obvious that a lot of people have different goals. I figure it would be interesting to see everyones lifting goals in the short term and future.
Probly get some flack for this, but I have been continuously battling injuries for over 2 years now, some old, one chronic, and some new.
Short term:
Finish my rehab on my elbow and shoulder and be pain free.
20 dead hang pull ups
Perform my old triple clap push up(clap push up where u clap in front, behind, back in front before you hit the ground)
8% bf.
One year:
Be back in the iron
315x3 flat bench
315x1 incline bench
315x8 ATG squat
Bw+100 lbs x8 pull ups.
I've put this other places, but 300/400/500 by the end of 2008. I can see myself deadlifting 600 at some point in my life- hopefully I can make that happen.
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Frank, what is your bench now? I remember it was lagging behind your squat but it started to climb at a solid pace before I took my "sabbatical"
I only got 350lbs in my contest, but i hit a little over 405lbs to a 3 board press and did a touch and go rep of 405lbs in training. I am using a single ply bench shirt though which i should be getting way more lbs out of.
I also have some injury related goals. Mainly getting my deadlift back up to over 400lbs without hurting my back again.
My short term goal is to learn how to properly execute the Olympic lifts. Once I get the technique down I can set some more specific goals. Being able to power clean my body weight (currently 250), would be a good start.
Front squatting 405lbs by the end of the year would be a huge accomplishment for me.
Should probably be more concrete, I guess, but lifting for any goal-based purpose has taken a back seat for me in the last year or so.
Near-term, I need to continue the process of healing and getting my numbers back to where they were before my body fell apart. That means mid-400s squat, mid-500s pull, and for once getting the bench to 300+ without demolishing one or both shoulders.
LBM-wise, I'm not going to gain much more, not without being extremely anal with the diet and more of the afore-mentioned drug abuse.
So let's say near-term, 6-9 months:
SQ: 200kg or 440 lbs
BP: 150kg or 330 lbs*
DL: 250kg or 550 lbs
* Contingent on the shoulder behaving itself, but that's more or less out of my hands
SQ and DL are numbers I've both done in the past, completely unequipped, at maybe 10 lbs heavier than I am right now so they aren't totally unrealistic.
Since I've really come to despise competitive powerlifting (ie, I have no desire to gear up and juice myself retarded anymore), I dunno if that's even on the table as far as goal-setting. I do know that once those are hit, I'll want more from it. At this stage, I'm just doing it for my sanity and to see what I can get out of it-- without gear and without sitting on a gram a week of test.
I could probably add a 180kg (396 lb) front squat to that list, and some of the freaky body-weight stuff like weighted pistols, one-arm chinups and such has always interested me. Who knows, there's a lot of things I could do.
The question is whether or not my body will cooperate without some joint or another deciding to pop.
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Should probably be more concrete, I guess, but lifting for any goal-based purpose has taken a back seat for me in the last year or so.
Near-term, I need to continue the process of healing and getting my numbers back to where they were before my body fell apart. That means mid-400s squat, mid-500s pull, and for once getting the bench to 300+ without demolishing one or both shoulders.
LBM-wise, I'm not going to gain much more, not without being extremely anal with the diet and more of the afore-mentioned drug abuse.
So let's say near-term, 6-9 months:
SQ: 200kg or 440 lbs
BP: 150kg or 330 lbs*
DL: 250kg or 550 lbs
* Contingent on the shoulder behaving itself, but that's more or less out of my hands
SQ and DL are numbers I've both done in the past, completely unequipped, at maybe 10 lbs heavier than I am right now so they aren't totally unrealistic.
Since I've really come to despise competitive powerlifting (ie, I have no desire to gear up and juice myself retarded anymore), I dunno if that's even on the table as far as goal-setting. I do know that once those are hit, I'll want more from it. At this stage, I'm just doing it for my sanity and to see what I can get out of it-- without gear and without sitting on a gram a week of test.
I could probably add a 180kg (396 lb) front squat to that list, and some of the freaky body-weight stuff like weighted pistols, one-arm chinups and such has always interested me. Who knows, there's a lot of things I could do.
The question is whether or not my body will cooperate without some joint or another deciding to pop.
Why have you come to despise competitive powerlifting?
I think you'll like it a bit better in Australia, the IPF side of it anyway(200ish lifters), we have a crazy WPC side, but they only have like 50-70 lifters hah!
No meets, or lifters(IPF anyway) in the Northern Territory though!!!
Those are some good goals mate, and a nice time frame too, I'm at least 1 year off the lower body ones, even more for the bench press.
Why have you come to despise competitive powerlifting?
This bit:
ie, I have no desire to gear up and juice myself retarded anymore
It just hit me that, at least in the popular US feds, it's become a game of adding layers to the shirt and to the squat suit.
I started lifting, and still do it, because I like lifting stuff. Yeah, I know all the rationalizations for gear use, and I don't have any problem with light single-ply stuff....but it's gotten stupid.
When half of your workout is getting into a squat suit and "learning it", to me that's a travesty. I don't like seeing guys "squat" 1200 lbs to the APF definition of parallel (ie, a high-ass squat) with a 600 lb deadlift.
Guys are putting more effort into getting good at gear than they are getting strong. Yeah, the big fookers are strong anyway you swing it, but when I see guys with no muscle and no raw strength throwing on a shirt and suit and smoking lifts that took me years of work to get, that miffs me a little. It feels dishonest, even if it's not cheating by the rules.
It's the rules of the sport and what you have to do, yes, but it's not why I got into lifting and it's not why I'm lifting now.
I don't want to feel like I have to be juiced to the gills 52 weeks a year to be good at it. And in the "untested" feds, that's what has to happen.
And so on. In short, it's not what I got into lifting for and I'm just not willing to do what it takes to be good at the sport. I have as much interest in that as I do in bodybuilding competitively -- ie, none.
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I think you'll like it a bit better in Australia, the IPF side of it anyway(200ish lifters), we have a crazy WPC side, but they only have like 50-70 lifters hah!
No meets, or lifters(IPF anyway) in the Northern Territory though!!!
Ya. We'll see. I won't rule out doing an IPF meet at some stage, because it'd be more up my alley. In some ways that pisses me off more because IPF is drug-tested, but it's not drug-free (to quote Louie).
Who knows. I may just keep being a bitter gym-lifter.
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Those are some good goals mate, and a nice time frame too, I'm at least 1 year off the lower body ones, even more for the bench press.
The squat is all about eating. Fatter = better. Every PR squat I've ever done has been while fat and bloated.
The pull is...shit, I don't know. Some days it's just strong, other days it sucks. I haven't figured it out yet, and it seems like nobody else has either.
Just keep hammering it, you'll get there. I can say the same, esp. since I've been there before. I just have to hope the old injuries decide to cooperate (and no new ones pop up). I swear my body is made of Chinese plastic.
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ie, I have no desire to gear up and juice myself retarded anymore
It just hit me that, at least in the popular US feds, it's become a game of adding layers to the shirt and to the squat suit.
I started lifting, and still do it, because I like lifting stuff. Yeah, I know all the rationalizations for gear use, and I don't have any problem with light single-ply stuff....but it's gotten stupid.
When half of your workout is getting into a squat suit and "learning it", to me that's a travesty. I don't like seeing guys "squat" 1200 lbs to the APF definition of parallel (ie, a high-ass squat) with a 600 lb deadlift.
Guys are putting more effort into getting good at gear than they are getting strong. Yeah, the big fookers are strong anyway you swing it, but when I see guys with no muscle and no raw strength throwing on a shirt and suit and smoking lifts that took me years of work to get, that miffs me a little. It feels dishonest, even if it's not cheating by the rules.
It's the rules of the sport and what you have to do, yes, but it's not why I got into lifting and it's not why I'm lifting now.
I don't want to feel like I have to be juiced to the gills 52 weeks a year to be good at it. And in the "untested" feds, that's what has to happen.
Hrmmm, I agree. I'm not really interested in other feds, just IPF. And since we have like 200 lifters, and they have 50-70, it's really not something I'll be exposed to unless I want to.
Ontop of all the high squats, and crazy gear, and being untested, the other fed in Australia(CAPO), has alot of juicers, obviously, probably 50-60%, and then some unlucky beginners who happen to meet one of them, instead of an IPF guy.
And here, the people who get the juice, are associated with criminals, and thus many of the lifters in this fed are the type who have been to prison, or know somebody who has, pretty dodgy group of people.
As for drugs in the IPF in Australia, it's 99% clean, and that 1% isn't because anybody is suspected, it's just incase. Having such a small number of lifters(200ish) means its really easy to keep track of, as there aren't many lifters, and even fewer top level lifters. Just as an example, after my first meet in 2-3 weeks, I'll be ranked between 3rd and 5th in the 82.5kg class in Australia - that isn't a boastful statement by the way, it's just highlighting how small the sport is here.
We get a doping offence maybe once every couple of years, and the last one we had was just an average lifter who stupidly used a diuretic to drop some weight. Nobody has been actually caught doping in over 2 years I think.
And since there are only a handful of top lifters, and everybody knows everybody, if anybody is suspected of doping, they will get tested immediately(there's one guy now who is suspected lol). The top lifters are tested more often of course, and random drug tests for everybody else, and since everyone knows each other nobody thinks anyone is doping mostly.
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Ya. We'll see. I won't rule out doing an IPF meet at some stage, because it'd be more up my alley. In some ways that pisses me off more because IPF is drug-tested, but it's not drug-free (to quote Louie).
Actually it is pretty much drug free in Australia, as I said above.
If you ever decide to do it, you'll have to go interstate though. I'm in direct contact with a few Powerlifting Australia officials(I train with their webmaster), and do some work(rankings and stuff) for them too. If you ever decide on entering a meet chuck me a PM, if you enter a national event it's likely I'll be there.
Come back from a grouse knee injury and not get injured again.
Squat 200kg athletic stance - full range of motion
Conventional deadlift 250kg (Always been a struggle because of my height)
Overhead press 60kg-100kg from a bad shoulder
20 pull ups no rest
Prone to injures or lack of knowledge. May not be a great deal but i just want to work my way back up.
ie, I have no desire to gear up and juice myself retarded anymore
It just hit me that, at least in the popular US feds, it's become a game of adding layers to the shirt and to the squat suit.
I started lifting, and still do it, because I like lifting stuff. Yeah, I know all the rationalizations for gear use, and I don't have any problem with light single-ply stuff....but it's gotten stupid.
When half of your workout is getting into a squat suit and "learning it", to me that's a travesty. I don't like seeing guys "squat" 1200 lbs to the APF definition of parallel (ie, a high-ass squat) with a 600 lb deadlift.
Guys are putting more effort into getting good at gear than they are getting strong. Yeah, the big fookers are strong anyway you swing it, but when I see guys with no muscle and no raw strength throwing on a shirt and suit and smoking lifts that took me years of work to get, that miffs me a little. It feels dishonest, even if it's not cheating by the rules.
It's the rules of the sport and what you have to do, yes, but it's not why I got into lifting and it's not why I'm lifting now.
I don't want to feel like I have to be juiced to the gills 52 weeks a year to be good at it. And in the "untested" feds, that's what has to happen.
And so on. In short, it's not what I got into lifting for and I'm just not willing to do what it takes to be good at the sport. I have as much interest in that as I do in bodybuilding competitively -- ie, none.
Ya. We'll see. I won't rule out doing an IPF meet at some stage, because it'd be more up my alley. In some ways that pisses me off more because IPF is drug-tested, but it's not drug-free (to quote Louie).
Who knows. I may just keep being a bitter gym-lifter.
The squat is all about eating. Fatter = better. Every PR squat I've ever done has been while fat and bloated.
The pull is...shit, I don't know. Some days it's just strong, other days it sucks. I haven't figured it out yet, and it seems like nobody else has either.
Just keep hammering it, you'll get there. I can say the same, esp. since I've been there before. I just have to hope the old injuries decide to cooperate (and no new ones pop up). I swear my body is made of Chinese plastic.
Just do gene therapy, go raw and mutilate the weightlifting world.
First goal - get consistent. My consistency has dropped over the last 6 weeks or so and my strength has tanked.
1 year goals
250 log press
650 yoke
330 stone to 42"
bench 315 again
500+ DL
Longer term goals
300+ log press
800+ yoke
400 stone
500 squat
650 DL
Edit - after reading through some of the other posts, I should mention that my goals are raw goals. No belt, no wraps. Just some chalk (or tacky for the stones) and the weight.
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First goal - get consistent. My consistency has dropped over the last 6 weeks or so and my strength has tanked.
1 year goals
250 log press
650 yoke
330 stone to 42"
bench 315 again
500+ DL
Longer term goals
300+ log press
800+ yoke
400 stone
500 squat
650 DL
Edit - after reading through some of the other posts, I should mention that my goals are raw goals. No belt, no wraps. Just some chalk (or tacky for the stones) and the weight.
I must also mention mine are raw, cept for belt on DL's.
First goal - get consistent. My consistency has dropped over the last 6 weeks or so and my strength has tanked.
1 year goals
250 log press
650 yoke
330 stone to 42"
bench 315 again
500+ DL
Longer term goals
300+ log press
800+ yoke
400 stone
500 squat
650 DL
Edit - after reading through some of the other posts, I should mention that my goals are raw goals. No belt, no wraps. Just some chalk (or tacky for the stones) and the weight.
how far for the yoke run?
where are you at (or were you at a few weeks ago), currently?
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where are you at (or were you at a few weeks ago), currently?
50 foot run with the yoke.
current:
190 log press
520 yoke
300 stone to 42"
bench 255
420+ DL (although I haven't pulled heavy for a while, so it's probably a bit lower than this right now.
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Do you know Wilks? Not saying I really do know him well though, but still... what?
Personally, no. I know plenty who have delt with his tirades in the area. Especially those who train "westside" or dare to talk to members of alternative federations.
But then two aussie lifters are currently going through the motions with drug failures, anabolics and diuretics.
Personally, no. I know plenty who have delt with his tirades in the area. Especially those who train "westside" or dare to talk to members of alternative federations.
But then two aussie lifters are currently going through the motions with drug failures, anabolics and diuretics.
Ya I know he pushes his style of old school periodisation pretty hard, and thinks everyone should train that way. But he isn't selling a training program lol. I hear his "winning personality" can be a bit hard to deal with hahahhaha
2 lifters currently ey? How would you know this and who are they?
Those are some pretty serious numbers for someone under 200 lbs to reach in a year, how far are you from them currently?
I need 185lbs on bench, 190lbs on DLs, and 130lbs on squat. Most likely I won't reach them, and that's okay. I like to set my goals high regardless. I like the "shoot for the stars, hit the moon" adage.
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