So everyone has a different definition of what they see as strong. I was wondering at what point everyone considers someone strong
for me
kinda strong would be
bench: 400
Squat: 600
Deadlift: 600
the strong would be
bench: 600
Squat: 900
Deadlift: 700
super strong
Bench: 700
Squat: 1000
Deadlift: 800
Being able to haul yourself up a rope easily with no foot assist.
Pistol squats with added weight.
Power cleaning more than bodyweight.
Jerking 2 70lb kettlebells for 10 minutes straight.
Biking up a tough climb at a good clip.
It's easy to forget but there is more to the world than powerlifting numbers
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Being able to haul yourself up a rope easily with no foot assist.
Pistol squats with added weight.
Power cleaning more than bodyweight.
Jerking 2 70lb kettlebells for 10 minutes straight.
Biking up a tough climb at a good clip.
It's easy to forget but there is more to the world than powerlifting numbers
yea
i mean i dont know about the rope never tried
Ive done pistol squats with as much as 25 lbs extra
my PC form is horrible but im sure i could get bw
and i use to race bikes. and i was the best at hills...
how is climbing up a rope or doing pistols while holding onto 50lbs strength? If so i was pretty strong when i was, about 7
powerlifting wise its hard to say. An elite total is an alright separator between shit and suck i suppose. But, even that these days only takes a couple years to achieve if you put your mind to it.
squat - 600raw or 800geared is a decent squat.
bench - 405raw or 600geared is a decent bench.
deadlift - 700lbs is a decent pull.
Oly lifts I have no clue. I would think a 2x bw clean would be pretty decent. I figure that if i trained for it for a while that would be attainable.
Oly lifts I have no clue. I would think a 2x bw clean would be pretty decent. I figure that if i trained for it for a while that would be attainable.
You weigh like what, 215? How long do you postulate that it would take you to clean 430?
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I wonder how many 800lb squatters can climb a 20' foot with legs held straight out... Or hold an iron cross on rings...
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No idea, never trained them. Done high pulls (usually pull til near nipples) for speed reps to help my deadlift with 180kg but i dont have good wrist flexibility (ive broken both of them). I would need to address that first.
I know that this really isn't my forum to reply to(since I cant lift nearly as much as all of you) but I feel that the definition of strong is specific to each lifter. What do you all think????
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I remember hearing a sotry about tom platz having a squat contest with a highly noted PLer. The PLer maxed out about 300-400 lbs over platz. They both tried to do 500 lbs as many as they could. The PLer hit it about 10 times. Platz quit after about 25 reps because he felt he proved his point.
Who had stronger legs?
Its all relative. I think a man who can rip a phone book in half is one strong mofo, even if he cant DL X lbs.
The term strong is also kind weird. I have a bench PR of 315 and DL of 495, if there is someone my exact weight who has respective PRs of 275 and 535, who is stronger? What about relative to BW? If there is a guy who DLs 650 and weighs 250, is he "stronger" than the guy who DLs 600 but weighs 200?
I remember hearing a sotry about tom platz having a squat contest with a highly noted PLer. The PLer maxed out about 300-400 lbs over platz. They both tried to do 500 lbs as many as they could. The PLer hit it about 10 times. Platz quit after about 25 reps because he felt he proved his point.
Who had stronger legs?
Its all relative. I think a man who can rip a phone book in half is one strong mofo, even if he cant DL X lbs.
Yeah that was Tom Platz vs. Dr. Squat(Fred Hatfield) the first man to officially Squat 1000 pounds. Hatfield squatted a shitload more than Platz for 1 rep, but Platz absolutely killed him for reps.
I tend to set goals that are both high, but at the same time achieveable. I wouldn't mind totaling 1650 in the 181 class in an IPF meet in the next 5 years as a junior. I think that's definitely possible, but for now, I'd like about 1364 for the end of the year.
For someone around average size, I'll say , as I'm too lazy:
300/400/500 RAW is strong, and achievable by the overwhelming majority of healthy adult males under the age of 50.
In single ply that might translate to 360/520/530.
I think the great equalizer is the deadlift, as gear doesn't give it as much as other lifts, so it can sorta be compared regardless of federations.
I'd say a 400lbs pull is "average", achievable by everybody
a 500lbs pull is "decent", achieveable by most people
a 600lbs pull is "strong", achieveable by many people
a 700lbs pull and above is "really strong", achieveable by not so many people, but still alot!
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Originally Posted by bigDman
So everyone has a different definition of what they see as strong. I was wondering at what point everyone considers someone strong
for me
kinda strong would be
bench: 400
Squat: 600
Deadlift: 600
the strong would be
bench: 600
Squat: 900
Deadlift: 700
super strong
Bench: 700
Squat: 1000
Deadlift: 800
Your definitions seem inconsistent. 600 squat and deadlift, sounds like something people would do int he IPF.
Squatting 1000 and deadlifting 700, requires double ply gear for such a big difference between a squat and dead!
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Originally Posted by Fulmen
Top-of-the line genetics strong:
BP-1000
DL-1000
Squat-1000
If you find a human doing this, he probably eats baby cows for breakfast.
BTW, this is what I'm shooting for. It's a "shoot for the stars, hit the moon" kind of thing.
Yeah, but you won't even get close to these without triply ply powerlifting gear And since you are the JP Fitness Bodybuilder, I don't see much powerlifting gear in your training
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Originally Posted by Frank.S
but in the oly, powerlifting, strongman forum.. doing 300 situps shouldnt be considered strong
Exactly
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Relitive strength is only talked about by small guys hahaha
My dead is 625lbs.. not 3.xx X body weight
If I deadlift 625 at 181 in 1-2 years time, I'm pretty sure that's a better lift than it would be at like 215
I remember hearing a sotry about tom platz having a squat contest with a highly noted PLer. The PLer maxed out about 300-400 lbs over platz. They both tried to do 500 lbs as many as they could. The PLer hit it about 10 times. Platz quit after about 25 reps because he felt he proved his point.
Who had stronger legs?
Its all relative. I think a man who can rip a phone book in half is one strong mofo, even if he cant DL X lbs.
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and youll get to those numbers and see a whole new set of numbers that stronger people are accomplishing and feel weak.
When i first pulled 500lbs I felt strong as hell! now I pull 625lbs and think i have a crap pull.
i won't feel weak, but i'll feel i have more work to do.
my long term goal is to get a pro card. I know i won't be WSM because i'm not willing to do some of the things continuously like some do. But i think i have an outside shot at getting a procard if i stay healthy for years and make good progress.
and 300lbs overhead won't be weak for 90% of people. I'll feel good if i can get there.
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