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Old 10-03-2004, 04:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just watched "Super Size Me" (it came out on DVD) And all I can think is "uggh" it was pretty disgusting. Watching what happend to that guy was amazing. I wasn't that surprised by much of it, because I know how much better I feel once I've started eating clean. But it did bring up a good question "where does self repsonsibilty stop and corporate responsibilty start". I personally believe self responsibilty should go pretty far. But morally I think fast food and junk food corporations have to step up and help a problem they're a big part of. What are you guys' opinion?
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Old 10-03-2004, 06:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If a smoking gun memo is found saying "let's make sure to hide the nutritional charts" or "it would cost 10 cents more per 1000 to make the nuggets healthier" or "let's add product X to get people hooked on this horrible product that we know will shorten their lives", then I say bring on the lawsuits.

I saw the movie this weekend too and I don't think I will be eating fast food any time soon.
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Old 10-03-2004, 06:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That is one "documentary" that I would really like to see. I'll probibly track it down when I go back to the states. While not having seen it I've read alot about it (open up any fitness webpage and you'll find an article somewhere).

IMO it's a trade-off. You're mission (the FF industry) is to make money. That's fair enough, right? How do you do that? You cater to your customer. What do they want? Historically something that taste good...and a value. Taste good...butter...grease...deep fried things..mmmmmm. Value....more of these tasty moresles for the same price. So we're at a crux.

In order for the industry to change the customer is going to have to change. Over here you order a pepsi at a FF place and they give you an 8oz pepsi. If you tried to do that back in the states you'd go out of buisness. But in relatity NO ONE needs a 40oz soda. But if I had my choice of a 40oz and an 8oz...it'd likely be a 40oz.

So IMO you can either change your clientel by serving ONLY healthy stuff and you'll probibly do ok. Or you can slightly change your menu by offering more options (more expense...less profits). Or you can decrease portions (the #1 offender IMO) and likely lose your @ss.

I don't have an answer but don't blame the industry.
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Old 03-13-2005, 06:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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This is an old thread, but I just caught this movie a couple of days ago on HBO.
Great flick, IMO.
The one part that really stood out for me (since I have a pretty strong opinion in regards to this), was when he was interviewing this overweight high school girl. She was saying how horrible it was that magazines and companies constantly promote a certain imagine of an attractive woman (a very thin one).
It amazes me how our culture has 'normalized' the notion of eating a lot and being overweight. To the point where it's common to hear critism of magazines like Cosmo or companies like Revlon that promote the image of skinny people; but hearing few, if any, harsh words for companies like mcdonalds, pepsi, coke, burger king, etc etc etc, for promoting a fat, unhealthy, and potentially deadly imagine.
It's 'normal' to grab a meal at McDonald's; it's 'crazy' to count calories or buy supplements at GNC. It's a crime to promote thin, but it's OK to promote fat and unhealthy.
Basically - the media machine behind the food industry has done an amazing job at shaping our society.
Sad, but hopefully this can change (it looks like the wheels may already be in motion).
Anyway - interesting flick that I recommend to everyone.
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Old 03-13-2005, 06:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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my boyfriend and i went to see it a few months ago when it came out-- it's pretty amazing. we just saw it again in my pop culture class (just a clip of it). i felt sick for morgan as i watched him eat-- so gross. if you haven't seen it- i highly suggest it!
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Old 03-13-2005, 06:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I agree, great movie, if not a little Michael Moore-ish, ironically. A couple comments:

1. Morgan lives with his vegetarian/vegan girlfriend who does all the cooking, so his nutrition is top-notch when he goes on this diet. While his changes may seem pretty extreme (they are for him), just think about all the people who live with his end-of-the-month numbers all the time. Ugh...

2. I give all the credit in the world to the fast food industry. Its primary goal, as with all companies in a free market, is to make money, and as was said before, it caters to its target clientele, no pun intended. It does so legally, inexpensively (even after the marketing blitz), and effectively. It's all about image. Anyone who has the audacity to sue this industry for his or her own health problems should be dragged out into the street and shot. God forbid anyone accept responsibility for his or her own condition. Blame parents, blame government, blame society, but please please please don't blame me. Bastards. #!$@#%!# I'm gonna go do some pushups before I get really pissed off
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I think my biggest surprise was how that diet affected his liver. His doctor was really surprised and concerned.
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It was hilarious when he was sitting in his minivan and yaked out the window when he was stuffing his face with the quarter pounder. I about shit myself laughing.
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Originally posted by Tony Soprano:
It was hilarious when he was sitting in his minivan and yaked out the window when he was stuffing his face with the quarter pounder. I about shit myself laughing.
And that was after only three days
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I have the movie on DVR and haven't watched it yet but along those lines I highly recommend the book "Fast Food Nation". It is a great expose about the business behind the fast food industry including meat packing and artificial flavoring industries. Very scarry stuff!
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It's 'normal' to grab a meal at McDonald's; it's 'crazy' to count calories or buy supplements at GNC.
This is what scares me. For example, my uncle will critize me when we go out for dinner if I order grilled chicken breast and brocolli and ask for them to make to steam the brocolli and add no butter. The thing is he's a doctor who knows that eating healthy is good and prolly tells his patients to do so. But, he will order friend chicken and french fries and that is seen as normal. What's wrong with this picture? BTW, I really enjoyed "Supersize Me" and I think I am gonna check out the book "Fastfood Nation" from the library for some Spring Break reading. (gotta cacth up on some good books when I have some free time_
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Old 03-14-2005, 12:32 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I had a double bacon cheeseburger and two sides of chicken nuggets with BBQ sauce from Wendys on the morning I left the Arnold. Best damn breakfast Ive had in a long time
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