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Old 08-01-2005, 11:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This Friday is my wedding anniversary. I know there are a few here who have been married longer than I (gardener and Alan come to mind), but 17 years pretty much seems like my entire life. Good Lord, I'm not even 40 yet. [img]smile.gif[/img]

So here's some miscellaneous ramblings. Take them as entertainment, advice, warnings, or whatever you wish:

-marriage is, in-part, a contract, much like a business contract. You need to decide who's job is what. You need to decide labor rates, pay scales, responsibilities.

-marriage is, in-part, not a logical exercise. If you think about it as a long-term endeavor with the same person, it'll send most people running for the hills. If you enjoy it day to day, and month to month, it'll not only be pasable, it'll be fun.

-kids are God's way of making sure you get through the years where you might really get sick of each other. You focus on the kids for decades and after they are grown up and gone, get to enjoy each other again. Thank God for the kids!

-if the woman is hormonal, resist all urges you have to argue with her - it doesn't matter how correct you are and how incorrect she is, you will lose that argument.

-when she cries, she is pulling out a trump card you absolutely
have nothing to counter with. Not fair, but them's the breaks.

-your eye may wander (you're a guy!), but if your body ends up following, your brain is gonna have to work major overtime to keep the marriage going. If it doesn't you can kiss most of your wallet goodbye! Unless you have a so-called 'open relationship' in which case while you are happily having fun, understand that your wife has already found someone who is WAAY better than you in the sack.

-if you make the effort and believe in kaizen (the concept of continuous improvement), the sex can get better and better and better.

-don't forget to still be courteous - thank yous and your welcomes should apply to those closest in your life, not just strangers and co-workers. Don't take things for granted if it is at all possible.

-your in-laws may be weird and quirky, but they are now YOUR family too. Try to treat them like human beings.

-when you let out a stinky protein-induced fart in the car and your kids complain, blame it on your wife. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Finally, for those guys who aren't yet married, if you can find someone who likes to work out as much as you do, damn.... grab her you lucky bastard! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 08-01-2005, 11:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't really have anything to add other then I got a kick out of the Japanese Management term thrown there [img]smile.gif[/img] .

P.S. Its going to be 10 years for me and my wife this October and I agree with all of the above. I guess that adds something...

and, oh yeah, Congrats!
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Congratulations to you and Mrs. Kaiser...best wishes for a continued wonderful relationship.
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Congrats!!! Keep it up!!! hehehe hehehe
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congrats K, you now truly know what the longest sentence is in the English language...


"I do"
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Old 08-01-2005, 12:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Kaiser, you truly are my sensei in this relatively new stage in my life.

Now, lets get your wife's perspective on all of this [img]tongue.gif[/img]

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congrats K, you now truly know what the longest sentence is in the English language...


"I do"
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Well, actually, only for 50% of married Americans, which makes Kaiser's accomplishment of 17 years even that much sweeter!

Congrats, bro! While you've got 5 years on me (just past the 12 year mark last month), I've got to whole-heartedly agree with all your comments. Although, Mrs. Bond and I have made it through those 12 years without children.
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-marriage is, in-part, a contract, much like a business contract. You need to decide who's job is what. You need to decide labor rates, pay scales, responsibilities.
It has always been my contention that this is 100% true. Some years the agreement favors one side or the other. As a result, occasionally one side will want a change in the terms of the agreement. Through good faith negotiations things can work out and a new agreement ratified. Unfortunately, way too often we are seeing both side walk away from the bargaining table.

For our northern brethren thank goodness hockey didn't follow suite.

Congrats K. 17 years is a longer than some of our board members have been alive. Keep the words of wisdom flowing for those behind you. I know it won’t hurt me to use them.
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Congrats on a, thus far, successful marriage. I say that because in todays day and age, people either prefer to not get married or cant stand the sight of each other for more than a couple years.

Kudos.
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-your in-laws may be weird and quirky, but they are now YOUR family too. Try to treat them like human beings.
That's the one that gets me. Sometimes when we talk to them I think Ashton Kutcher is going to jump out and say "You've been Punk'd".

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Congrats on the anniversary Kaiser.

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-if the woman is hormonal, resist all urges you have to argue with her - it doesn't matter how correct you are and how incorrect she is, you will lose that argument.
That's the one that gets me every time, and why I'm still not married [img]smile.gif[/img]

All sage advice.
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-your in-laws may be weird and quirky, but they are now YOUR family too. Try to treat them like human beings.
That's the one that gets me. Sometimes when we talk to them I think Ashton Kutcher is going to jump out and say "You've been Punk'd".

Congrats on the 17.
[/quote]That's hillarious, Charger. I think you summed up most guys' feelings on in-laws. I try my best, but they can definately be hard to deal with, at times.

Congrats- Kaiser. My 3rd Anniversary is on Wednesday and we're looking forward to spending many, many, many more great years together.
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A woman is sleeping in her bed when she is startled awake by a strange noise coming from the basement. She cautiously goes down there and finds her husband crying in the corner. "What's the matter, dear" she asks, putting her arm around him for comfort.

"Do you remember", he says, "fifteen years ago when your father caught us naked in the back seat of the car, and told me either I married you or he would make sure I went to jail?"

"Yes, dear, I remember that night", the wife said.

"Well", the husband said, wiping away a tear, "I'd be getting out tomorrow".

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-your in-laws may be weird and quirky, but they are now YOUR family too. Try to treat them like human beings.
Congrats on #17.

That one quote has become the test of my marriage. Evidently when Mrs. FlyinM was born, she took all common sense from both her parents with her. Now my wife is the 'parent' trying to make them act like responsible adults. (Long story....trust me.)

Again, Congrats of the anniversary and thanks for the wisdom that comes with it.
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-your in-laws may be weird and quirky, but they are now YOUR family too. Try to treat them like human beings.
That's the one that gets me. Sometimes when we talk to them I think Ashton Kutcher is going to jump out and say "You've been Punk'd".

Congrats on the 17.
[/quote]That's hillarious, Charger. I think you summed up most guys' feelings on in-laws. I try my best, but they can definately be hard to deal with, at times.

Congrats- Kaiser. My 3rd Anniversary is on Wednesday and we're looking forward to spending many, many, many more great years together.
[/quote]It's interesting that so many people have trouble with in-laws. I just don't understand that. I truly love my in-laws. So much so, in fact, that I've worked VERY hard to convince them to build a house on the lot behind ours, which they're doing right now.
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Congrats on the anniversary Kaiser.

quote:
-if the woman is hormonal, resist all urges you have to argue with her - it doesn't matter how correct you are and how incorrect she is, you will lose that argument.
That's the one that gets me every time, and why I'm still not married [img]smile.gif[/img]

All sage advice.
[/quote]And when he starts 5 projects around the house, leaving tools and half used supplies in his wake, never finding the time to finish any of them because 75% of his at home time is spent posting on JPs website, don't nag, no matter how right you are and how wrong he is, it doesn't help. DOH! Sorry fellas (and especially you honey), I'm just hormonal. [img]tongue.gif[/img] No really, if the wives could chime in here I'm sure you'd find thier side of the woes and joys of marriage just as informative and entertaining. Congratulations on the 17 years to Kaiser and the lovely missus. Good work, good luck and good love! God speed to all of us who strive to make partnerships not just work but work well. BTW Kaiser, To help ODB out, I spent Friday night camped out in the woods surrounded by rednecks who don't appreciate the joy of hearing only the bugs and the wind then all day Saturday tromping thru said chigger laden woods on and off trail testing check points for a race happening next month. In return I got a great hat to shade my face while I lay out at the water park, lunch AND dinner made for me and an evening at a bar drinking long island ice tea and listening to one of my favorite bands. I think I got the good end of the lollipop on that one.
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Yeah, she looks awesome in that hat and bikini combo! Life is good!

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I hear ya on the In-Laws rule. I get along very well with my father-in-law. My wife takes after him. My mother-in-law, well, that's another story. She's the one all those jokes are written about. Unfortunately, my sister in law takes after her, so... I try desperately to keep my mouth shut when their around, tough sometimes.

Congrats Kaiser! As I've said in other topics, you are a lucky guy. My wife and I have been together for 5-years now, married for 3. Best compliment I ever got was "She could have done better". I agreed.

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Congrats Kaiser on your 17! You've been married 1/2 my life!
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Congrats. Me myself I'm just a newlywed.
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I didn't want to say that. It's a bit over 1/2 mine.
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Uhh, since were trying to make Kaiser feel old...

Im 21, so you do the math. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Anyway, before I go pass out... Id just like to say, I know alot of people that loath the idea of marriage, but I cant wait to find that person to spend the rest of my life with.
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First of all, I know that you are NOT a newlywed. Why are you lying?

Second, you are obviously dodging having to answer the tough questions that followed your rhetorical rant in the CE forum. I see that you like to try to stir things up, but lack the capacity to back yourself up.

I am beginning to detect a pattern here. In forum-speak we call that "trolling", and you know what happens to trolls.
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I'm with Vlad, I'm 21 so you've been married since I was 4 [img]smile.gif[/img] . Congratulations. I can't wait to get married and have my own 'family life'. I hope my marriage is as successful as yours : )
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Jeez... A bunch of young'uns in here, eh Kaiser? My wife and I have been together sine 1989, married in '92. Seems hard to believe that it has been that long. 16 years! Am I that old? I still feel like a spring chicken...I just don't LOOK like one anymore.
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Congrats K! Although I don't agree with all of your points (we're not all that bad ya' know...especially for puttin' up with all the guy crap we have to deal with [img]tongue.gif[/img] ), congrats to you and D! Not too many people make it that far these days. It's wonderful to see [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Congrats K! Although I don't agree with all of your points (we're not all that bad ya' know...especially for puttin' up with all the guy crap we have to deal with [img]tongue.gif[/img] ), congrats to you and D! Not too many people make it that far these days. It's wonderful to see [img]smile.gif[/img]
The only guy crap that a girl would have to deal with, with me is Sunday and Monday night football. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Other than that, I can cook and Im a clean person. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

This is a cause for a new thread.....
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Congrats K! Although I don't agree with all of your points (we're not all that bad ya' know...especially for puttin' up with all the guy crap we have to deal with [img]tongue.gif[/img] ), congrats to you and D! Not too many people make it that far these days. It's wonderful to see [img]smile.gif[/img]
The only guy crap that a girl would have to deal with, with me is Sunday and Monday night football. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Other than that, I can cook and Im a clean person. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

This is a cause for a new thread.....
[/quote]That wouldn't be crap to me...I'd be watching football with ya'.

Ok...guess I'll start a new one [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Nevermind...lol...I don't want to start a thread just to bitch about guy stuff...lol. Cause I think it goes both ways. No one is perfect. You just work on making it work. If I complain about something he does, I'm sure he's got one about me to counter it.
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