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Old 06-07-2005, 08:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am on my son's pc cause mine is f-ed up! I go to turn it on, and I get a black screen that says windows did not start successfully. When I press enter to start it, it just shuts down. Sometimes it doesn't even get that far, I'll turn it on, and it turns itself right off. Any clue as to what's going on or what I need to do?
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Old 06-07-2005, 09:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well the first thing I would do is reinstall windows... Since you can't do it from that computer you can just connect the hard drive to your sons computer, save the user.dat and system.dat files (registry information - that way you won't have to reinstall everything) and delete the windows directory. Install it on that hard drive from your windows cd, connect it back to your computer and see if it works. If it doesn't the problem could be with the registry so you should try deleting the user.dat and system.dat files. Try starting the computer from that HD again and see if it works this time. If it STILL doesn't work, though highly unlikely, it's possible the problem is with the hardware. Try connecting the HD to your sons computer and making it the boot drive. If it starts fine then the problem IS with your computers hardware. If it doesn't, it's probably with the HD itself though I can't imagine being able to go through the entire proccess if the HD IS damaged. ;\
You could then save all the important files on your son's HD and try formatting yours, THEN install windows.
How old is the hard drive? Usually after about 3-4 years those things start making problems and eventually break down...

Now, if you have absolutely no idea of what the hell is it I'm talking about, it's gonna be pretty hard for anyone here to help you through the internet since you can't even start windows on that computer. I'd suggest calling a computer tech. guy to try and take care of it [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 06-07-2005, 09:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I understand some of what you are saying but I have a friend that can probably come over and help me with the rest [img]smile.gif[/img] I do have a new HD to put in if it is damaged, but I will try the other stuff first. Thanks so much!
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Old 06-07-2005, 10:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Any clue as to what's going on or what I need to do?
Get a Mac.
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Old 06-07-2005, 11:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Two things I would do:
1. Hook your hd to your son's. Make it the slave drive and see if you can pull off your files (pics, favorites, documents) you want to save first. Save them to your son's hd that is working.

2. Try the windows repair if it is XP. I haven't had much luck but maybe it does actually work.
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Old 06-07-2005, 11:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Try booting into safe mode. If it's Windows XP, hit F8 as the machine boots. Go into safe mode, then shutdown and restart. If that doesn't help, you can go into safe mode then to a system recovery to an earlier date BEFORE this problem started to happen.

You can email me if you need any help, I do IT for a living (sort of, I am a regional manager and have a few people under me).
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Old 06-07-2005, 12:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
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If you get it booted...get yourself some spyware software for both your computer and your son's puter (the one's I mention below are all free). All the problems I've ran into lately have had to do with spyware/viruses.

- Spybot Search and Destroy
- Adaware
- Microsoft Spyware

(You'll probably want to run all 3 of them as they catch different things)

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Old 06-07-2005, 12:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks everyone...I have XP. I will try your suggestions.

Chris..I do have Spybot on there already and Microsoft Spyware.
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Old 06-07-2005, 01:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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&%$@$&...now it won't even turn on...it starts to boot for about a second and shuts down...is this the point where i just throw it out the window? you think it needs a new hard drive?

(Kaiser - you sound just like a friend of mine..she tells me that all the time..I'm not getting one though..she calls me a mac-hater..lol)
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How many beeps does it make and how long are they?
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You could also try disconnecting all the non-critical hardware like SCSI adapters, the sound card, the modem (?)/network adapter, and all other hard drives except the one windows is on.
When trying to troubleshoot most kinds of problems doing this should be the first step. The problem could be with some of the other hardware and the way it works with the rest of the computer, even though at first it doesn't seem like it...
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TG - Macs - they just work. We have three of them at home now. I've been using a Mac in some shape or form for the last 15 years. Have only had a screen freeze on me 3 times in that time period (all resolved by rebooting) and only had one failure where I had to do a data retrieve and reload (which they did, free of charge, at the local Apple store).

I used a Mac at home and PC at work concurrently for 8 years and when I started my own biz 7 years ago, went right to the Macs. Simply because I don't have time for the crap you are describing. They work and are truly plug and play. I'm not a programmer or IT guy, so I don't want to deal with all of the Windows headaches (which I see on my parents' PC all the time).
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ya took the words right out of my mouth [/quote]Certainly a fine option; I used to solely use macs for a number of years. But, toward the end of that time (2000-ish) all the machines I used at the time froze up and had conflicts as often as any windows machine I've used since then. Has their system stability notably improved in the past four or five years?
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Another program i use for spyware is spyware doctor. it's free, but you also have the option of buying the real time protection.
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I'm sure Macs are good computers but as long as the business world stays Windows oriented so do I.

MACs have never appealed to me. I don't see the issues that MAC owners are always pointing to.
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Spyware Blaster is great too, it helps by not allowing the stuff to install in the first place.

When you download any of this stuff please download it from a reputable site. I told a neighbor about AdAware, he downloaded it (spelled differently) from some place in Russia and it 0wn3d his PC. It was ugly, pr0n central.

Another viable option if you had Windows is a Linux. SuSE is a breeze to use. I use FreeBSD at home on one of my PCs, it's ok once you get the hang of it.
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Again, I would take out the hd and put it in the other computer to get all vital info off first.

I don't know how computer literate are.

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Again, I would take out the hd and put it in the other computer to get all vital info off first.

I would agree with this statement and do it before you reformat. Also grab that "outlook.pst" file if you want all your email back if you use Outlook.
 
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Instructions:

1. Open window (preferably at least second story, or higher).

2. Grap machine & yank it with a hard pulling motion (to free up all cords). Repeat pulling as necessary.

3. Carry machine over to window.

4. Look below to ensure no people or pets are located below.

5. If all is clear in (4), throw the damned machine out the window.

6. Close the window.

7. Walk to refrigerator.

8. Open fridge.

9. Take beer.

10. Go sit somewhere comfortable and relaxing.

11. Open beer.

12. Drink beer.
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Instructions:

1. Open window (preferably at least second story, or higher).

2. Grap machine & yank it with a hard pulling motion (to free up all cords). Repeat pulling as necessary.

3. Carry machine over to window.

4. Look below to ensure no people or pets are located below.

5. If all is clear in (4), throw the damned machine out the window.

6. Close the window.

7. Walk to refrigerator.

8. Open fridge.

9. Take beer.

10. Go sit somewhere comfortable and relaxing.

11. Open beer.

12. Drink beer.
Ok, I'm really leaning towards this suggestion the most

But I will do the others....I will pull my stuff off the harddrive first...thanks for all the tips. Will probably work on it this weekend..will let you know how it goes. If all else fails though...I'm using Chris' idea
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