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Old 09-03-2005, 06:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I stated receiving Men's Journal last month out of the blue. I didn't think much about it and thought perhaps it was just a promotional issue. It was even kind of an interesting read, what I read. There was an article about Aron Ralston, the guy who had to cut his arm off with a pocket knife in the canyoneering accident.

Then another one came today. I called Men's Journal to find out why I'm getting it and the only thing they had to say was that it was requested by National Publisher's Exchange. I looked online for this company to find a toll free number and found this instead:

http://w3.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff153638.htm

http://www.jameshoyer.com/case_natio...html?se=Google

Anybody know anything about this?

Lou, do you have any info on these folks?
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Old 09-03-2005, 10:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Holy shit! That's not good. Thanks for posting this Q. I get a few mags too. I hope you find out some info about them. I'm sure Lou is the man to have helping you out.
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Old 09-03-2005, 11:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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totally off topic, but...


me and aaron ralston in sydney after doing the bridge climb.
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Old 09-04-2005, 12:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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totally off topic, but...

me and aaron ralston in sydney after doing the bridge climb.
WOW, that's still pretty cool, o/t or not! I didn't know you are a climber. Did you get to watch him climb? Don't know where you rate but he seems like he's pretty skilled!
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Old 09-04-2005, 04:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Learn something new every day!

I had no idea. After reading the information on the links, it sounds like a really scummy operation is dragging down the reputations of magazines that probably don't realize what's being done in their names.

(As for Men's Journal, it's owned by Wenner Media, a very, very profitable publishing company. They have Rolling Stone and Us Weekly in addition to MJ, so they don't need to cheat people to make a profit -- which is why I'd guess they have no idea what this Magazine Exchange is up to.)

Magazines sometimes allow third-party agents to sell subscriptions -- the old Publisher's Clearinghouse being the most famous -- but this is the first time I've heard of the a third-party agency running a full-out scam.

To avoid this, here's what I recommend:

1. When you sign up for a magazine, and you want to maintain control of the subscription, do it the traditional way: a year-to-year subscription with the company itself.

2. A gold-standard subscription, from the publisher's perspective, is one that automatically rolls over year after year. It's great for them, but perhaps not the best policy for the consumer. I have these with a couple of online magazines (Salon and the New Republic), but handle all my print magazines the way I described in point #1.

I look at it this way: If I like a magazine, it's usually because the current editor is doing a good job. If he moves on, I may not like the magazine as much. With the traditional year-to-year arrangement, the worst that can happen if an editor leave is that I receive a few more issues than I wanted. If I have a rolling subscription, I might be able to cancel immediately, but then again the company might slip a renewal under my nose one month when I'm not paying attention, and it may be harder to get my subscription canceled and my money back.

3. I'm geeky enough to keep a log of my magazine subscriptions, so I always know when they're due for renewal.

A few years ago, when I was really, really busy at work, I renewed Consumer Reports three times in one year. They just kept sending me renewal notices every few months, and I kept writing checks.

I didn't realize what I'd done until I was putting together my tax information the next year, and realized I'd paid for CR three times over.

That's when I started recording renewals in a notebook. I haven't made that mistake since.
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Old 09-04-2005, 05:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Q: The Bridge Climb entails walking up a series of walkways and ladders to get to the top of the Sydney Harbor Bridge. It entails no real climbing skill. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Aaron actually had to take a workmans lift up on a couple of spots because he wasn't allowed to bring his prosthesis up with him (nothing removable that can fall) and couldn't climb steep ladders with only 1 arm.
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