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Old 10-23-2009, 03:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default My cure for obesity and the energy crisis

All wrapped up into one solution....

Liposuction... aka: human whaling.

No longer will fatties have to pay for lipo surgery. They'll be so sought-after, they'll have to watch out for poachers.
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow, I think that's the most offensive thing I've read on this site.

Glad you find us funny.
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I would have never seen this topic if Anne hadn't replied to it.

Jerk about covers my thoughts.
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It isn't very nice.

I figure you are gonna pipe in and say "But I lost hundreds of pounds, I used to be really heavy" . . etc, etc.

That doesn't make it okay to be rude.

Also, I don't know if there is supposed to be a veiled point in that, or if you wanted to have a thread with you listed as the 'author' and this was the best that you could do.

edit in ~ odd, because you always strike me as 'fun' and one of the most encouraging folks on here. Maybe you just didn't realize how harsh this would come off in 'type'.
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Old 10-24-2009, 09:45 AM   #5 (permalink)
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maybe it was POD: Posting On Drugs?
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I'll try to give him a ton of optimistic hope and think that perhaps he was talking about stem cell harvesting? We all carry stem cells in our adipose tissue and who knows, in a few decades that could be very highly valued.

If you didn't mean that, then dude... are you okay?
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:32 AM   #7 (permalink)
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maybe it was POD: Posting On Drugs?
Or someone else posting under his name (as happened often with CAChief)
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I'll try to give him a ton of optimistic hope and think that perhaps he was talking about stem cell harvesting? We all carry stem cells in our adipose tissue and who knows, in a few decades that could be very highly valued.

If you didn't mean that, then dude... are you okay?
I thought it was a reference to the story circulating about the liposuction doctor who was supposedly running a car on human fat. (I haven't bothered to check if it's urban legend or fact.)

That said, I didn't think it was funny, but it's not like it's the first time I've ever seen a fat joke on these boards. I don't tend to like to rock the boat so I usually just shrug or wince and move on, same as I do with the retarded jokes.
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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This is not Lyle's board.

On his forum, you see those jokes & worse ones all the time.. after spending too much time there, some people don't know any better. I'd have thought OP was better with watching what to say & what not.
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:21 PM   #10 (permalink)
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OK, that wasn't meant to be mean or rude at all, but I see I didn't really explain it well either, and with a sarcastic comment about poachers, yeah that was a poor choice in retrospect. I'm all for stem cell research but that's for a different topic. The intent for my post was just to throw an idea "out there" for a little fun.

Here goes, hang with me as I connect the dots. I view the world a little differently than most.

This is my brain without chemical help - *sigh*

whaling is what made the US an energy powerhouse in the first place
then oil replaced whaling because of endangerment and the fact that the oil was easier to utilize back then - keep in mind both crude oil and whale blubber/oil are of the same family - lipids - which produce energy with the right enzymes to catalyze the reaction. So for all intents and purposes, crude oil is the same thing as whale blubber/oil, and that by extension makes human adipose tissue the same thing as crude oil - not physically, of course, but chemically they're pretty close.

now the abundant and easily accessible oil is running short
We can't go back to whaling because the supply isn't there, not to mention it's just wrong.
instead of jumping ship onto a completely new source of energy that will never pan out we can stay with oil but seek more efficient/abundant sources of it.

There's a lot of human adipose tissue around with the rise in obesity - probably a lot to do with the amount of oil that's been removed from the ground, coincidentally, allowing a lifestyle that makes the rise in obesity possible. Whoa. circular.

Now, I don't know if HAT would be easier to manufacture into fuel than crude oil is to extract and refine, but at some point it very well could cause crude is only getting harder to find and more expensive. 100lbs of fat equals roughly the energy of 11 gallons of gasoline. At some point the crude oil will be so hard to get, that will look like a favorable ratio.

If HAT could be extracted through liposuction, and refined into fuel, it changes the tables a bit. Note: I'm talking about volunteer and humane procedures here, not something from a Matrix movie.

HAT would become a commodity and folks who wanted to get liposuction would not have to pay one dime for it, or part of the cost could be subsidized by energy companies. Maybe they would even elect for free excess skin removal.

People already get liposuction but that removed energy store isn't put to use (other than soap at posh boutiques, for the Fight Club flick fans - or limited stem cell research)
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:43 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Seriously, you think that explanation makes the original comment better? Sigh...

Why don't we just round up the obese and lock 'em up like animals? Harvest the fat and then feed 'em up again. You should know this (having been overweight) but a good percentage of the population sees the obese as a waste of space and/or resources. As someone who claims to be an aspiring trainer, you might want to rethink that job focus. Unless you're going to wear a t-shirt that says 'no fatties please'.

Seriously though, it was the fear of running into fitness professionals with underlying attitudes like you seem to have that kept me away from gyms when I could have afforded it. A moot point now that I financially can't afford it. It hasn't personally happened to me (recently) but I know women trying to lose weight that will be out walking and run into verbal abuse from young(ish) guys passing in cars, or nasty comments from other women. Maybe if we were treated a little more like human beings we might make more progress. Just a thought.
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Old 10-25-2009, 03:26 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Suppose we take this 'tongue in cheek' energy joke seriously, there's several flaws:
- the procedure for liposuction is not cheap at all, so the harvesting costs would be huge
- there's not going to be an energy crisis at all: there's plenty solar & wind energy to fuel almost anything and on top there's nuclear energy too.
So, this leaves it all as just a cruel & silly joke as shown by the words 'fatties' & 'poaching'.

Think again.. how would you have felt if this was said to you when you were still obese yourself?
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Old 10-25-2009, 11:40 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I gots to agree with Espi. There isn't going to be an energy crisis.

At the very least it isn't going to be to the extent the doomsayers say it will be.

Oil companies that are going to survive do not think of themselves as oil companies. They think of themselves as energy companies. They have alternative energy branches. They know one day that the hydrocarbons will become too expensive to extract. They know when that happens to stay alive they need to have their fingers in other pies.

Yes we will run out of Hc, but that day is NOT tomorrow.
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