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Old 07-26-2008, 11:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A really sad story about 4 kids dying on their way to a sports contest in rural Montana. They were like 10% of their high school. My question is about their first names, Kale, Kade, Jace, Dayne. I am used to black Americans having unusual first names, but four likely white guys in the rural areas. Anyone have any enlightenment about these names?
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I have no idea what you're asking, other than "huh? white dudes have 'weird' names?" Are there names you're supposed to use when you're white? And how is a list of names 'white' or not or whatever? Dude, those are like hollywood or soap opera names.
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A really sad story about 4 kids dying on their way to a sports contest in rural Montana. They were like 10% of their high school. My question is about their first names, Kale, Kade, Jace, Dayne. I am used to black Americans having unusual first names, but four likely white guys in the rural areas. Anyone have any enlightenment about these names?
I was going to say that perhaps you need to get out more, but I see you're from "rural Western WA," so now I'm certain you need to get out more.

I teach in Seattle, and those names seem just as normal as any other name of any black, white, Asian, or Native American kid in my classes.
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freakonomics seems to think that first names is an interesting phenomena, so do I. I was not in any way being judgmental, not one of those names is one I have seen, and am kind of suspicious that they are not as common as the above posts indicate. I am in Seatle alot. but not in the schools. Any number?

I DID NOT say weird, I did not say abnormal.
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Those names caught my eye too when I read thru the headlines earlier today. I knew a Dain once, but the other three are new to me.
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Setting the names aside, my heart goes out to those families and that small community. What a tragedy.
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I have no idea what you're asking, other than "huh? white dudes have 'weird' names?" Are there names you're supposed to use when you're white? And how is a list of names 'white' or not or whatever? Dude, those are like hollywood or soap opera names.
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A really sad story about 4 kids dying on their way to a sports contest in rural Montana. They were like 10% of their high school. My question is about their first names, Kale, Kade, Jace, Dayne. I am used to black Americans having unusual first names, but four likely white guys in the rural areas. Anyone have any enlightenment about these names?
My son played with both a Cade and a Jace on his little league team last year. I've got a cousin from Kentucky name Dane. The names didn't strike me as abnormal at all.
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It can really be regional ... my mother is from Utah and some of the names I heard there growing up were not names you would hear in New England. Yet I am certain that many of the names I heard regularly growing up in Connecticut wouldn't be common in other parts of the country ...

:shrug: I see your point Rob ... that the names are unusual (I don't think you meant "abnormal"!) ... not a Mike, or Bob, or Mark, or John among them ... but you should hear some of the names of the kids in my daughter's class ... Shelby, Acadia, Leightyn, Grayson, etc ... And Hayley's class has Tasha, Braden, and Eagen.

I think it's cyclical ... Olivia was a very "old fashioned" name when I was growing up (I'm 40) ... yet now it has become popular again. So has Sophie/Sophia, and many others.

And Chris ... is there really any need to be so disagreeable? You don't need to be so rude to get your point across.
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freakonomics seems to think that first names is an interesting phenomena, so do I. I was not in any way being judgmental, not one of those names is one I have seen, and am kind of suspicious that they are not as common as the above posts indicate. I am in Seatle alot. but not in the schools. Any number?

I DID NOT say weird, I did not say abnormal.
I didn't think you were being judgmental, I just wasn't getting what you were asking. I don't know what you deem normal. Sam, John, Matt, Mark? A big majority of people I know try for more uncommon names, precisely because most of them have the same range of names in the ones above and were in a class with 3 people of the same name. Most of the people in my family have named their kids stuff like Isis, Januari, and a whole slew of other such names not terribly common, and they live in a small town in the foothills and could be considered rather rural. *shrug*

The names you listed sounded like typical soap opera character names.

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Shark, seriously. If you said stuff like that to a person's face you'd get laid out on a regular basis.
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Having a rare first name, Robin*, and a very rare surname I find names interesting. So I did some research. All four I listed were labelled very rare first names. Two were more common as last names. One was Hawaiian, one Welsh. Jace (pronounced Jay Cee may come from Jason or, like parents initials J, C. I thought the first two replies were a little more arch than they needed to be, but was not particularly offended.

*Dearest Mama, please note, while not originally a boy and girl name. I always related to the Johnny Cash song, A Boy Named Sue
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Rob, have you spent any time in Montana or Wyoming, or anywhere else in "the middle?" (this is why I asked if you got out often )... I don't actually think those names are all that uncommon, but I've also spent a lot of time in Spokane, and traveled to those states quite a bit.
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Idaho and Utah count in there too. Just last week I was exchanging emails with two guys in Utah named Micah and Jarom.
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Perhaps rare in spelling but I could quickly think of three "famous" white people with those names.
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Cade McNown - QB from UCLA drafted by the Bears in the first round

Cale Sanderson - one of the greatest wrestlers of all time

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That said I would generally agree they are uncommon but it wasn't the first time I've heard them as names.
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