I sincerely believe there are many people out there who are struggling and worthy of our concern. These are not among them. What is wrong with this picture? When you had a car, you did little to look for a job. Now you don't have one and it becomes one more excuse.
"Nunez, 40, has never worked and has no high school degree. She says a car accident 17 years ago left her depressed and disabled, incapable of getting a job."
Ms. Nunez needs to take a look at the many physically and mentally challenged people we have in this country who contribute their work and tax dollars on a daily basis, all so that she can make that statement.
Politically correct or not, it is quite evident that she and her daughter are not starving.
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I sincerely believe there are many people out there who are struggling and worthy of our concern. These are not among them. What is wrong with this picture? When you had a car, you did little to look for a job. Now you don't have one and it becomes one more excuse.
"Nunez, 40, has never worked and has no high school degree. She says a car accident 17 years ago left her depressed and disabled, incapable of getting a job."
Ms. Nunez needs to take a look at the many physically and mentally challenged people we have in this country who contribute their work and tax dollars on a daily basis, all so that she can make that statement.
Politically correct or not, it is quite evident that she and her daughter are not starving.
Pretty much sums it
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Having grown up with family that was poor and fat, it's more the quality of food I'd say. Raman and generic mac & cheese (with ketchup, mustard, AND mayo… *puke*) don't do much to help body comp, but they are cheap.
Having grown up with family that was poor and fat, it's more the quality of food I'd say. Raman and generic mac & cheese (with ketchup, mustard, AND mayo… *puke*) don't do much to help body comp, but they are cheap.
Then you haven't been in a grocery store behind someone, holding your pound of hamburger and watching them pull out the government stamps for that tray of steaks you couldn't afford. And I say this in all seriousness. It happens frequently.
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Then you haven't been in a grocery store behind someone, holding your pound of hamburger and watching them pull out the government stamps for that tray of steaks you couldn't afford. And I say this in all seriousness. It happens frequently.
Actually, I have.
BOTH of my parents have been on government assistance. And, unlike other people, they don't seem to think they should have to eat like shit just because they have are. And unlike other people they knew, they actually knew something about calories and nutrition.
Foodstamps are often what my parents had an overabundance of. It would have been more helpful to have the cash assistance for bills, or better medicaid help, but no, they got a shitton of foodstamps.
So, after budgeting a month with what they had, eating good cheap food, they'd get something nice at the end of the month, like steak or something.
The could have just gotten the shitty hamburger and then sold the foodstamps for cash to be more helpful, but they're also law-abiding citizens.
I didn't know Food Stamps had carbs in them, I thought they were pure protein...
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Man, and the people suggesting to have a kid should be the financial guardians of said child. That is some stupid ass logic of the highest degree.
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BOTH of my parents have been on government assistance. And, unlike other people, they don't seem to think they should have to eat like shit just because they have are. And unlike other people they knew, they actually knew something about calories and nutrition.
Foodstamps are often what my parents had an overabundance of. It would have been more helpful to have the cash assistance for bills, or better medicaid help, but no, they got a shitton of foodstamps.
So, after budgeting a month with what they had, eating good cheap food, they'd get something nice at the end of the month, like steak or something.
The could have just gotten the shitty hamburger and then sold the foodstamps for cash to be more helpful, but they're also law-abiding citizens.
I think in some ways we ARE agreeing here. It is possible to eat well when receiving assistance. Like you, I had a family member who was on public assistance and lived in a public housing project. I got a bad taste for the system early on seeing the amount of waste and the entitlement attitude that abounded. Anytime I criticize the system, I am usually characterized as being mean and I thank you for your polite response. There are people out there that do desperately need help to make it in this world. I simply wish they could get more of that help and the freeloaders could get a lot less. I don't want my tax money back. I just want it to do the most good. People and families hit hard times and deserve our compassion, but there is absolutely no excuse for 2nd, 3rd, 4th and more generations of that family to consider the help they receive as a way of life and many do. There are generations of people who have worked the system while the most deserving are often overlooked.
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True. The entire gamut ranges in my family. There's the scammers, the optimizers, and the people who don't do it but suffer hugely because they DO work for a living. And most of them are overweight and mainly because of their lack of understanding about basic nutrition, not about a bulk of food. Cheap food is rather calorically dense, after all, and if one can't afford a good grade of beef or bread better than Wonder…
The system is set up so that you have to make a certain amount of money to make it worth working. Not everyone can make that money, so it becomes easy to accept assistance than work and have less. We ate well when my mom was on P.A. Not so well when she worked. Vicious little circle…
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