JOB WELL DONE. Cynthia Potier was nameddietetic technician of the yearby St. Charles Hospital. She is pictured with the hospital’s director of food and nutrition, Blaine Guillot.
Aww, come on, now you're just poking fun at someone who can't defend themselves.
I think it's very sad that a lot of people who spend their lives taking care of others - doctors, nurses, mothers - feel like they can't take the time to take care of themselves first.
Aww, come on, now you're just poking fun at someone who can't defend themselves.
I think it's very sad that a lot of people who spend their lives taking care of others - doctors, nurses, mothers - feel like they can't take the time to take care of themselves first.
Don't be mean just because you can.
I agree with you completely. My comment was not meant to be mean, but to point out how unfortunate it is that someone whose profession involves counseling other individuals cannot apply their expertise to their own lives.
These people are no more victims than you or I in this world of fighting off fat and taking care of ourselves. They certainly can defend themselves and in fact have (by their profession) many more tools than we do. So WTF? This is ironic (funny) and sad all at the same time.
from what i can tell no one has time to take care of themselves if you ask them. i work a lot, i have a wife that wants my time, i have obligations yet i am still at the gym, or at jiu jitsu or out running, biking and swimming. my wife is a nurse, she works usually between 50-70 hours per week. she works out 5 days a week and still has time to take care of what needs to be taken care of at home. i am in no way justifying making fun of anyone but i think its just as bad to make excuses for people and act as an enabler by trying to be so 'sympathietic'.
and with that in mind i don't think anyone was poking fun at these people anyway. it was merely noticing an all too common irony.
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I took it as making fun and being mean-spirited because I assume that the anticipated reaction would be laughter rather than introspective reflections on any perceived irony of it - but maybe I'm an oversensitive FF because that picture hits uncomfortably close to home and I secretly fear that you are all laughing at me for even being on a fitness forum.
If I'm not mistaken, one of our occasional nutrition experts is a heavy guy. He's a great mind and doing what he can for himself, but he's not so focused on himself.
I dont think I could ever take her advice very seriously to be honest. Shes not 'heavy' or 'holding an extra few lbs' that lady is asking for a heart attack obese.
I dont think I could ever take her advice very seriously to be honest.
she may be brilliant at planning in hospital meals for brittle diabetics with one working kidney who are post-surgical after a car accident with crush injuries and a complex medication plan (assuming that is a complex dietary situation) - to discount her expertise at a loved one's bedside based on her weight might be short-sighted (just my opinion, YMMV)
she may be brilliant at planning in hospital meals for brittle diabetics with one working kidney who are post-surgical after a car accident with crush injuries and a complex medication plan (assuming that is a complex dietary situation) - to discount her expertise at a loved one's bedside based on her weight might be short-sighted (just my opinion, YMMV)
Uh.... I guess there is a 1 in a million chance but it is most likely the case that she is just negligent about taking care of herself with a million and one excuses (none of them her responsibility) for her being fat. Come on let's be reasonable here. Lisa you are on this board and working out because you recognize you have an issue and are making strides to fix that issue. Nobody reasonable would begin to make fun of that. We all respect that and many of us (me included) come from being obese and are still working to obtain great health. That is a FAR CRY from being in a position where you adivise others how to be healthy in a professional manner. I'm sorry but I would not take her seriously either. Same with a seriously obese peronsal trainer. He would not see my money.
There's almost no good excuse for an adult to be fat. Like gobbla said, you can eat less and/or choose healthier foods. Sure, it will be easier with exercise, but you don't need it.
I don't think I'd have an issue with them as a dietitian, since I know enough to smell bs, but what about normal people? Like a normal, but slightly overweight person, looking to lose weight. They'd look at someone larger than themselves and wonder what was up.
Even if they do a good job, they're causing themselves problems.
I agree lost dog. I'll be honest and say I snickered when I looked at the picture and read the caption... and that was because I found the irony in the situation. Honestly, I wouldn't pay her either, and it's sad that she can do herself such a dis-service just by being overweight... but in her profession that's what's going to happen. When someone sees a dietician they are going to expect someone thinner. Same with the personal trainer KFisher mentioned. If they're very overweight I'm going to have a hard time believing that they actually know what they're talking about. Maybe I'm biased becasue I've never been heavy, I know it must take one hell of a lot of effort to lose it once you've packed on dozens of pounds, and I highly respect it when people put forth that effort even though I've never been there. (Ok, wow... run on sentance, sorry! haha) Maybe this woman was heavier before and has lost 50lbs and is still working on her goals? That could very well be the case... but if it is then why didn't she start sooner? Why didn't she put her knowledge to good use when learning all of the things she was taught when becoming a dietician?
You know what? We're all living our own lives. You don't have the right to point at a fat person, dietician or otherwise, and laugh at them. That's cruelty, and it speaks volumes to the author's own vanity.
Do you think you're above this person because you work out and have a great body? I'm sure I could point you to several prison inmates with six packs. Do you think this woman is an idiot about food because she's got some weight to lose? It seems her award would disagree. Her education has nothing to do with her body.
If you went to her as a dietician, it's your choice to trust her or not. And yes, it's unfortunate that she won't make the time to take care of herself. But that is all.
None of you are better people than this woman. In fact, anyone who would point to someone and laugh at them because their physical appearance is at odds with their chosen occupation is a very small person indeed.
With Lisa and Rixatrix. How do we know, for example, that the lady is not pregnant? How do we know either of their situations? Hell, maybe if any of us were in their place, we'd be 400 lbs.... we just don't know what the background stories are.
I do not think I'm better person at all! Not that you can tell by looking at a person, but she seems as though she's a sweet person and very like-able. I'm sure if I knew her I would love her. I have absolutely nothing against people who are heavy and I have many friends that are a bit overweight. It by no means makes me any better than them for being thinner. On the contrary I think many of them are better people than I. I think this thread has gotten blown a bit out of proportion. We're not laughing at her. It's just a bit ironic to see a dietician that is overweight. Having seen your and Lisa's posts, I agree with you that it is mean of us to be judging this person based on a picture, and yes, maybe this thread should be torn down. I think the original poster just wanted to pass on a bit or irony... we've all seen things like this in email forwards too. I don't think it was intended to be mean, just ironic. Yes, at first glance, the irony is amusing, but when you remember that it is a real person with feelings on the other end of that picture, you realize you shouldn't judge. Thank you for making me think about it a bit more. If it was just another email forward, i probably would have giggled and deleted it and never thought about it again, but the discussion made me think about it more and I do realize I was mean to judge. However, if it was a cartoon or something and no actual person was involved.. I would still find the irony amusing.
Would you go to a marriage counselor who's been divorced three times? How about a career and time management coach who is always late and misses deadlines?
Maybe we would, maybe we wouldn't. But can we at least recognize the irony of trusting an expert who apparently doesn't follow their own advice? That's all I see going on here -- no value judgments on whether these are good people.
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Maybe I'm mistaken, but isn't James Newman a heavy guy?
Yes. And, he's offered up and acknowledged many of the same issues.
If I remember correctly, he's become a nutritionist because of his own weight loss journey and what he's learned along the way.
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This whole thread makes me uneasy. I'm with Lisa.
You know what? We're all living our own lives. You don't have the right to point at a fat person, dietician or otherwise, and laugh at them. That's cruelty, and it speaks volumes to the author's own vanity.
Do you think you're above this person because you work out and have a great body? I'm sure I could point you to several prison inmates with six packs. Do you think this woman is an idiot about food because she's got some weight to lose? It seems her award would disagree. Her education has nothing to do with her body.
If you went to her as a dietician, it's your choice to trust her or not. And yes, it's unfortunate that she won't make the time to take care of herself. But that is all.
None of you are better people than this woman. In fact, anyone who would point to someone and laugh at them because their physical appearance is at odds with their chosen occupation is a very small person indeed.
This thread should be torn down.
Her award does disagree, but these type of awards are subjective, too. In my industry, you are nominated for awards and might not get one if you don't dress or act the part, despite what you know or do. The industry and associations involved want you to reflect what they stand for.
How much time does it take to eat less food?
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With Lisa and Rixatrix. How do we know, for example, that the lady is not pregnant? How do we know either of their situations? Hell, maybe if any of us were in their place, we'd be 400 lbs.... we just don't know what the background stories are.
They might both be working on their weight. We don't know. But, the fact remains that they have an ongoing challenge to convince others that they should be given the job.
And, she might be pregnant, but if that's her weight because of pregnancy, then she's likely out of touch with the amount of weight that's necessary for a healthy pregnancy.
Would you go to a marriage counselor who's been divorced three times? How about a career and time management coach who is always late and misses deadlines?
Maybe we would, maybe we wouldn't. But can we at least recognize the irony of trusting an expert who apparently doesn't follow their own advice? That's all I see going on here -- no value judgments on whether these are good people.
My thoughts exactly... I"m just more long-winded, haha
again i don't think anyone is laughing at the people. they are only amused by the irony of the situation depicted in the picture. it sounds to me like you are projecting your own emotions into this conversation and not necessarily looking at what the majority of the ppl are trying to say. but whatever, you can get riled up about it, as is your prerogative, but i don't think anyone has implied superiority to these people.
and yes it is true they may have legit excuses for being the weight they are, but barring the possibility that they both have medical problems causing them both to be over weight it seems like a hypocrisy that they are trying to teach ppl to be healthy when they are, in all likelihood, not practicing what they preach. would you trust a drug counselor that was still actively using? even if they gave good advice there is a certain level of credibility that comes into question.
i spent the mojority of my adolescent life between being fat and being very fat. what was the worst about it was that up until about 15 years old i was extremely athletic and quite fit. i quit sports and packed on a ton of weight. so everyone that i used to hang out with or play sports with made fun of me constantly. i went to college and decided not to be fat anymore. so i became active in martial arts and going to the gym and eating better. and i lost that ton of weight. all while maintaining a relationship with a very needy girlfriend for about 3 years, working a full time job, and taking 18 credits and still puled a 3.5 gpa. so i know a thing or two about having my time constrained and still making it work. anyone can find 30 minutes a day and make healthier choices when shopping for groceries.
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And, she might be pregnant, but if that's her weight because of pregnancy, then she's likely out of touch with the amount of weight that's necessary for a healthy pregnancy.
Again, we don't know if she is. But I have to disagree with you here. What if she's having twins... or triplets? Can we say that it isn't a healthy weight for her then?
As far as what RL said, we've had similar discussions regarding appearance and personal trainers. I think that while most people agree an overweight PT would be bad marketing, most of the paid CPTs on this forum have said that they don't consider appearance in picking a good personal trainer. Otherwise, as I think Lou said, you'd go to the biggest bodybuilder in the gym and ask him to train you. I think the same logic should apply here. She may be the best dietician in the world... but her personal circumstances may prevent her from being single digit BF% when this pic was taken.
Yeah, I think the pic is ironic at face value, but I also prefer to look for excuses rather than point fingers. But that's just my opinion.
Again, we don't know if she is. But I have to disagree with you here. What if she's having twins... or triplets? Can we say that it isn't a healthy weight for her then?
Possible. A healthy weight gain for pregnancy should be up to about 30lbs. With twins you should gain up to 35-45 lbs. Although, the man in the picture has a diet and nutrition related job, right?
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As far as what RL said, we've had similar discussions regarding appearance and personal trainers. I think that while most people agree an overweight PT would be bad marketing, most of the paid CPTs on this forum have said that they don't consider appearance in picking a good personal trainer. Otherwise, as I think Lou said, you'd go to the biggest bodybuilder in the gym and ask him to train you. I think the same logic should apply here. She may be the best dietician in the world... but her personal circumstances may prevent her from being single digit BF% when this pic was taken.
Single digit? I think very few would think that a slightly overweight person was a questionable nutritionist or dietitian. We don't require ultra low body fat, but not obesity.
And we all market ourselves in one way or another. Being fat, or sloppily dressed, obnoxious, smelly, etc. all can cause problems with marketing ourselves to clients, dates, prospective bosses, etc. They might not be insurmountable, but they present barriers.
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Yeah, I think the pic is ironic at face value, but I also prefer to look for excuses rather than point fingers.
This might be semantics, so I'm not digging on you. But, you could look for reasons and/or solutions, not excuses. You should never look for an excuse, but you might find that the reason makes the issue excusable.
I am very sensitive to how we treat people with weight problems here. That happens a lot in the real world and I never want this place to be daunting or scary or uncomfortable for someone overweight.
I don't see the point of putting up this picture for comment except to get a snicker. That is not to say the points made for why she needs to slim down are not valid, I agree with Red Lefty and Lost Dog and others. I just don't see the point of bringing it up.
I am a hypocrite to an extent since all I have time for is a 20 minute run about 4 days a week at 9:30 at night. I could do more but after working full time in IT and taking care of three kids and my house, I am not about to lose more time with kids for exercise nor am I going to cut out my sleep. I have too much squish and own a gym - I sure don't want my picture up there for people to see the irony.
Just out of curiosity, does anyone really think that both people have "reasons\excuses" for being overweight? If so what reasons would the dietitian of the year and director of nutrition have that wouldn't go back to "doesn't eat right"?
Whats wrong with this picture??????
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