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Old 05-17-2006, 01:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy A question for the computer techies

I came home to my PC at lunch and had a black screen waiting for (it's usually on 24/7). After playing with mouse and keyboard nothing came it.
So I turned it off and immediatly back on. After a few seconds I received this message: Disk I/O error: status 00001000 NTDetect Failed.

I rebooted a bunch of times and the same message came up. I tried CTRL - ALT - DEL and the same message came up plus this: file is missing or corrupt /system32/ntoskrnl.exe

Any ideas on what's going on? Any way to fix it? Re-install W2000 or buy a new HD?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Old 05-17-2006, 01:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It's not detecting the harddrive. Try pulling the disk cable, from both the disk and the controller, and reseating it.

If that fails, do you have an extra drive to test? If so, try it in the 'failed' drive's place.
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Old 05-17-2006, 01:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well I do have a hard drive that is used as a slave drive with no OS.
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Marc,

The hard drive is being detected as your boot loader knows where to try to boot into Windows from. If the hard drive was not detected you would get a message along the lines of "operating System not found". The Master Boot Record (MBR) is being called by your system BIOS which, which then calls your boot loader. Your boot loader is trying to load the OS kernel and failing.

there are a few options.

a. if you have a recovery disk you can boot from it and attempt to repair the installation

b. if you have a windows 2000 cd you can boot from it and select the "repair" option.

If that fails you may be looking at a total reinstall.

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The hard drive is being detected as your boot loader knows where to try to boot into Windows from. If the hard drive was not detected you would get a message along the lines of "operating System not found". The Master Boot Record (MBR) is being called by your system BIOS which, which then calls your boot loader. Your boot loader is trying to load the OS kernel and failing.
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Old 05-17-2006, 02:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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there is something wrong with the data on the drive.

The computer is detecting the drive and trying to load windows. It's failing for some reason.

Bad sector or something.
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Old 05-17-2006, 02:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Razorback,

Sorry, thats the geek in me unable to put pen to paper on issues like this I can fix issues like that with my eyes closed but can't type out a decent explanation.

ogedei summed it up right. The hard drive is detected but theres a problem with a file.

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wow, I guess I truly am a dork, MacSob, if your explanation of the MBR as such made perfect sense and I thought, "yeah, I guess that's how I would try to explain this to someone who doesn't know computers"... Guess it helps that I already knew that stuff, but still, when you try to explain something "basic", at least to one in the field (and pun kinda-intended, to the fellow geeks), to one not in the field, it's hard to say exactly what information you're leaving out.
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My 2 cents...about 80% of the time...in my experience...when an Operating System file is corrupt, the hard drive is usually failed or on the way out.

Short story, if the hard drive is not completely failed, you MIGHT be able to get the system back up and going again by using you restore CD to Repair the installation. But even if you DO get the system back up and going, it would be a good idea to test the hard drive.

Some PC's have a built in IDE test that can be ran to test the integrity of the Hard Drive. The test resides in the BIOS or SETUP of the system. This is, a dangerous place. You can easily screw up you system by making changes in the BIOS so be careful in there and do not save any changes.

Usually a system's BIOS can be entered by hitting a key or sequence of keys early in the boot up. For some systems it is the F2 key. For others, the F10 key....etc. There is usually some language during the boot up that tells you what to hit to enter the system Setup. Once in...the IDE test...or Hard Drive test can be located in several different places so just look around for it and run it when you find it. Using this utility, you can determine if the Hard Drive is bad or goin bad.

The good news...hard drives are fairly cheap these days. Good luck.

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As an addendum to what Jimbo said, some BIOS/motherboards have SMART (Some Mysterious Acronym that's Really Tech-y) that you can enable that can warn you when something bad is going to happen to the HD and you can prepare accordingly; this isn't really helpful for the current situation, but something to check out if you're fiddling in the BIOS.
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My guess is that something has trampled the OS kernel. You could try a repair disk if it's available, but I don't know if I've ever seen one recovered from that problem. The hard drive could be failing, but it is possible that it is fine. That was the case with my company laptop. Desktop support reinstalled the OS and was able to move everything in my existing profile into the new OS.
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Paradigm,

I wear my "geekness" proudly for the world to see

I'm glad my explanation made sense to at least one person

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I think as soon as you say "kernel", people's eyes glaze over.
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I tried a whole whack of stuff, then I tried re-installing the system and nothing worked.

Looks like the HD has frizzled! Oh well, I was thinking about getting a bigger one, now I have no choice.
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Alright! A new car and a new computer!
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Old 05-18-2006, 07:31 AM   #16 (permalink)
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no, no, just a new hard drive. As for the car, it's currently at a mechanic's to see what he can do with it. I'd like to see it survive a little longer. At least another year.

I also need to get new eyes and that can be pricey.
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