So I'm graduating in May, and I'll be persuing a career in human resources. So far that's going great - I really like the work, I've been networking like crazy and I've been tipped off on a few great opportunities in my general area.
However, I also really like dispensing my dating knowledge to a handful of hopeless (or should I say desperately hopeful?) friends, and I think it would be kind of cool to make a career (or side-job) out of being a dating consultant.
I'm not talking "Hitch" style - he tried to manipulate women into falling in love with the guys he coached: researching their likes and dislikes, setting up ellaborate schemes, etc. I just think a lot of people, especially guys, just go about things wrong. They take dating too seriously, try to force feelings into situations where they don't exist, and alienate women in the process. So rather than pull a "Hitch" and try to force chemistry, I'm big on teaching people the best way to find it (make sense?).
Anyways, my question is really, any ideas on how I'd go about getting involved in that sort of thing?
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A human resources guy who, a while back, posted a question about screwing his boss? LMAO!
Sorry, Chris, had to rag on you.
How to go about it? First, get more clear on exactly what you feel you could offer and to whom? Be as specific, and as narrowly focused, as possible. Then we can plan from there.
Cause of Chris's line..."Then we can plan from there." Not "then YOU can plan from there", nope it was, "then WE can plan from there."
Good times. Maybe we need to start JPs Business consulting or something? Does emartin want in on this too?
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I wasn't committing just me. For that matter, I wasn't committing me. I fully meant "Whoever wants to be involved." But, maybe we can get a cut of this when it goes multi-city.
Just a no-nonsense, common sense approach to dating: Don't waste your time with people who aren't into you, how to meet people, etc. I was thinking it might be neat to piggy-back it with a date-networking service (you know, set people up)
Any thoughts? Am I wasting my time with a pipe-dream here?
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Just a no-nonsense, common sense approach to dating: Don't waste your time with people who aren't into you, how to meet people, etc. I was thinking it might be neat to piggy-back it with a date-networking service (you know, set people up)
Any thoughts? Am I wasting my time with a pipe-dream here?
Following the age-old advice of "do what you like" (or who)?
I'm not talking "Hitch" style - he tried to manipulate women into falling in love with the guys he coached: researching their likes and dislikes, setting up ellaborate schemes, etc.
Hitch was the man. He just figured out how to get women to notice guys they normally wouldn't. After that it was all the guy, maybe just a bit improved.
I say go for whatever you can see yourself doing everyday and enjoy it, while making some money. Doing something you enjoy is crucial, and while you're young you have the opportunity to shop around for jobs. It's worth giving it a shot.
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So what will your hook be? what will you offer that they cant get elsewhere?
You need to work that out first........... how can the great Cassanova impart knowledge.
The next step is to get yourself on a course like train the trainer, lifestyles counseling or neuro liguistic programming. That will give you some proffessional credentials.
Are you planning on doing it net based or hands on???? why not start your own bloggy type website to test the market but dont give too much away
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"The time for talking has passed, actions are speaking louder than words."
See, BFG, that's the thing. I know I'd need some type of "catch," but gimmicky shit never really works.
I like the JP/Lou Schuler/Alwyn/etc. method of marketing. It's not novel - It's simplicity and perserverence. That's definately more my style. I would want to be hands on.
Charger, HR is definately what I love and enjoy, but I think this would be something fun to do on the side. I'm kind of thinking out loud in this thread, but I'm not entirely sure how with a business like Date Coaching you would get your name out and gain clients.
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Not a catch but what is it that Sharky can offer that others cant .
Schuler/Berrardi/Alwyn et al have made there name it speaks for themselves. No disrespect meant but they are at the stage where if they farted in a box they could sell it. They have all established their credentials and achieved almost celebrity status being at the pinnacle of their profession
You need to establish your credentials and show what it is that makes you the one the consumer needs. Hence suggesting the training so you could then say well not only am I speaking empiricaly but I have the foundation of knowledge to show you how this could work.....
so from what you are saying above you have already given yourself a hook or a catch.....sharky: simplicity and tells it as it is
as for getting your name out there went to an awesome seminar by a hugely succesful marketing ghuru recently and he said Blogs are the way. Go out there and, yikes this could back fire as people could twist this if they wanted to!, but profess to be a dating expert. Afterall this is what you are aiming to be. So instead of joining in banter you start posting as from my industry experience blah blah blah you get my drift. If you do this often enough and do what you are good at ie post whore then the message will get across and you will get people contact you direct
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"The time for talking has passed, actions are speaking louder than words."
the next stage is engage with the mdia in whatever format, if you hear of news storys or tacky love stories put yourself forward again as an industry expert and provide a quote for an article....befriend a reporter it gets you loads of free advertising
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"The time for talking has passed, actions are speaking louder than words."
trust me you set yourself up as an industry expert and then learn the knowledge as you go you are half way there. You are not faking it as you say you have the underpinning knowledge and Im not suggesting you make stuff up but you acknowledge as you are now that you have observations in this area (I wont question whether they ar correct or not as Im shit at the whole dating game) and that you can justify how these methods work.
Its no difference to the principles of improving self esteem if you portray yourself as confident then it breeds confidence. it becomes your way of life. In these circumstances ie building a business you want to instill people with the confidence that your methods work, you yourself say that they do and the education of yourself is just there to reinforce the underpinnning knowledge
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"The time for talking has passed, actions are speaking louder than words."
I'm not entirely sure how with a business like Date Coaching you would get your name out and gain clients.
100% guarantee. If the guy can't get the girl, you'll take the girl out for him.
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Have you read "The Game." It's a pretty good read. I certainly wouldn't recommend the strategy in the book for getting women that you might want to keep around... But, it does show some interesting tactics that seem to work.
Nick... i have NO idea what you're talking about (smiles and nods)
Ok here- it's based off the guarantee that you take the girl out if she will not date your client.
You take her out, yet you treat her like dirt. Therefore, she would rather go out with said client. Therefore, client gets date and you look successful.
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or girl thumps you for being such a pig and that leaves you with a black eye.
Then you meet with the guy again who since following your advice went out with the girl and has fallen madly in love. She tells him all about the last pig of a date who she thumped and gave a black eye to and he then stands up for his maidens honour thumps you in the other eye and takes his cheque back.
Hope you have good medical insurance!
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"The time for talking has passed, actions are speaking louder than words."
Ok here- it's based off the guarantee that you take the girl out if she will not date your client.
You take her out, yet you treat her like dirt. Therefore, she would rather go out with said client. Therefore, client gets date and you look successful.
Isn't there a risk that girl would then associate the client with you (the jerk) and then date someone else entirely?
I have a better idea. Date your cute receptionist. Then everyone will be able to tell that you know what you're talking about.
chris, you should go see the movie "failure to launch"; while sarah jessica parker isn't a dating coach she is a "coach" in that she gets guys to move out of their parents houses. it was a cute movie and an intersting idea although i hate the way she went about it - but it was a 'different' idea for a business much like a dating coach.
chris, you should go see the movie "failure to launch"; while sarah jessica parker isn't a dating coach she is a "coach" in that she gets guys to move out of their parents houses. it was a cute movie and an intersting idea although i hate the way she went about it - but it was a 'different' idea for a business much like a dating coach.
I really liked that movie, although the ending was a little bit corny. I like chick flicks....its pathetic, i know.
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