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Old 07-28-2009, 02:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Maintenance Calories: 1961 Calories

The MAXIMUM I'm able to get daily is about 1300 Calories.

I've tried EVERYTHING guys.. by the end of the day I feel SO stuffed theres no way that I can eat anything else !!

And I know I know I know what the effects are going to be but how on earth do I make myself eat more than I can!?!

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Old 07-28-2009, 02:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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  • Add peanut butter to your PWO shakes.
  • Add olive oil to your protein/meat when cooking.
  • Add a couple ounces more to your meat per meal.
  • Do whole eggs instead of egg whites.
  • Take everything you ate today and add a bit more to it (ie, if something was 1/4 cup, make it 1/3 a cup, if something was 2T make it 2.5T, if something was 3 oz make it 4 oz..
  • Nuts: almonds, walnuts
C'mon....1300 calories is nuthin!
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey MissJane I've been using olive oil for every vegetable I cook (cauliflower, cabbage), my shake = tofu, skim milk, PB, whey protein, strawberries; and I'm vegetarian so no meat or eggs :'( I have at least one serving of yogurt and walnuts everyday and I still cant reach the freakin mark Its really frustrating.
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Give us your daily menu.....I can assure you I'll have no problem upping the calories for you.

ETA: Give us the macro breakdown of that day, too (carb/fat/protein).
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what is your fat % look like? I find I can beef up my calorie count by adding things like little cheese, nuts, olive oil, avocado, and whole fat (or low fat) yogurt. I was so used to eating where I avoided anything that wasn't "fat-free" or "extra-lean" that it took a little while to get used to having a little fat again. Fat has the most calories (9 per gram) so adding a little fat can really help if you're short on calories but don't feel like eating a ton of food.

edited: saw your new post, try going to lowfat or whole milk instead of skim. what about grains? ever tried quinoa?
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Here's what I've had today:

Whey Protein 120 Cal - 24P - 3F - 10C
P.B. 210 Cal - 8P - 18F - 6C
Extra Firm Tofu 70 Cal - 7P - 5F - 2C
Skim Milk 80 Cal - 8P - 0F - 12C
Protein Bar 240 Cal - 18P - 12F - 22C
Lentils 150 Cal - 9P - 2F - 20C
Plum 30 Cal - - - - - - - - - 8C
Cottage Cheese 90 Cal - 16P - 1F - 4C
Walnuts 180 Cal - 4P - 17F - 5C
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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HazelDazel - I've been considering switching to whole milk but I figured I'd do that at stage 2. Or dyu think I should do it right away? I went crazy looking for quinoa!! I went to pathmark, stopnshop, cvs, farmers market - and every other place that has groceries near where I live and people hadnt even heard about it!!
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Old 07-28-2009, 04:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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is that all you eat in a day? I would be starving!
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a protein shake made with PB, tofu and milk
a protein bar
then a snack (?) of lentils, plum, cottage cheese and walnuts?

That would maybe get me to lunch ( i don't do lentils so I don't know how much 150 calories worth is).
I would swap out the protein bar for some real food, for starters. And add more food.
If your stomach can't hold more (lucky girl) then look for calorie dense food, like nuts, cheese, meat (chicken, fish, beef?)
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Old 07-28-2009, 04:40 PM   #9 (permalink)
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go for the whole milk now, even stage 1 is intense and your body needs the fuel. I crunched your numbers (hopefully i didn't screw up the math) and this is what I got:

Protein (g): 94
Carbohydrate (g): 89
Fat (g): 58

Total calories: 1170

Protein (kcal): 376 (32.1%)
Carb (kcal): 356 (30.4%)
Fat (kcal): 522 (44.6%)

Try looking for quinoa at Trader Joe's or Whole Foods or some other healthy type place. Just make sure you're adding healthy fats like avocado or stir-frying with sesame oil and you'll be able to boost your calories. My DH had a similar problem where he was doing a BB bulk program and had to boost his calories to like 3,500 a day. The first few days were wretched for him but he quickly adjusted.

P.S. I'm assuming this is just what the OP has eaten so far today, not the total for the day...
P.P.S. Eat yer veggies, veggie girl!
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Mimipope.. I dont want to keep this up coz then my body'll go into starvation mode and I will NEVER lose the 15 lbs of fat that seemed to have made a permanent home on my bottom and thighs as fat pockets. I look ridiculously out of shape when I put on jeans and a normal tee and have to go out of my way to shop for stuff that goes beyond my thighs.. its a curse I tell ya.

Lentils are very filling coz of their fiber content which keeps your appetite in control. That, is exactly the problem here. Coz I want the protein but alsoneed to eat more.
I have nuts and cottage cheese on a daily basis. No Chicken fish and beef though - I'm vegetarian.
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Old 07-28-2009, 05:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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HazelDazel - I'm quite lost with some of the abbreviations here - HH? OP ?
Whole milk and avocado. Got it. I'm going to shop for one of those huge cartons of veggies at the market this weekend and make you proud :P Thank you

And yes youre right. This is only until now. Since then, I've stuffed myself with 2 slices of whole wheat bread with grains, 2 tbsp PB and am looking to get 3 more slices with some cabbage stir fried in olive oil. I'l post it all on my training log
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LiftLike . . ..Can't help you on diet, sorry; without meat I'd be starving too! I don't know how anyone can possibly hit 2000 calories as a vegetarian. I hope you figure it out, though; the program works great as long as you can fuel yourself.
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dear wife ? I thought my other familial examples would make that more clear than it was I guess.
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Darling water, damn waiter, doofus husband .. you guys are HILARIOUS!!
Well, Lancelots that really dont help me much but thanks anyway ^_^
One way or another, I WILL get there
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I DID IT!!!! Yes YES YESS!!

I was able to hit the 1961 mark!

Food:
Whey Protein 120 Cal - 24P - 3F - 10C
P.B. 210 Cal - 8P - 18F - 6C
Extra Firm Tofu 70 Cal - 7P - 5F - 2C
Skim Milk 80 Cal - 8P - 0F - 12C
Protein Bar 240 Cal - 18P - 12F - 22C
Lentils 150 Cal - 9P - 2F - 20C
Plum 30 Cal - - - - - - - - - 8C
Cottage Cheese 90 Cal - 16P - 1F - 4C
Walnuts 180 Cal - 4P - 17F - 5C
4 Whole wheat bread slices - 440 Cal - 20P - 4F - 84C
2 tbsp PB - 210 Cal - 8P - 16F - 6C
3 tbsp Olive oil +1/2 cabbage 210 Cal - 4P - 2F - 20 C

Net : 2040 Cal
135P / 91F / 179C

Okay, so I overdid it 'coz I tried to eat everything in sight, but at least now I know its possible!
Another negative, too many carbs. Got to find a substitute for bread.

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How about Dufus woman, meaning me? duh, duh, duh; don't know how I missed that!
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How about adding some cheese, string cheese or something. Should give you some more protein + fat to offset the bread. You could even make a cheese sandwich using the 2 slices of bread w/ some veggies on it, pretty tasty. If you really need some calories add something like avocado to it.
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Here's what I've had today:

Whey Protein 120 Cal - 24P - 3F - 10C
P.B. 210 Cal - 8P - 18F - 6C
Extra Firm Tofu 70 Cal - 7P - 5F - 2C
Skim Milk 80 Cal - 8P - 0F - 12C
Protein Bar 240 Cal - 18P - 12F - 22C
Lentils 150 Cal - 9P - 2F - 20C
Plum 30 Cal - - - - - - - - - 8C
Cottage Cheese 90 Cal - 16P - 1F - 4C
Walnuts 180 Cal - 4P - 17F - 5C
So, one serving of fruit and no servings of vegetables? You could easily increase your calories and get some higher quality nutrition by adding a salad with a bit of lettuce, bell peppers, carrots, etc. and topping it with beans or lentils, nuts or seeds of some kind, and
a bit of olive oil.
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Ha! I copied and pasted something I had posted on a message board and emailed it to my DF (dear fiancee) one day... he didn't know what DF was.... asked me if it meant he was a "dumb f*ck"
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where are your veggies? You have almost no veggies? We should be getting 7-9 servings of them a day!
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I was thinking the same - for a vegetarian there are not many vegetables there. Big raw salads, 1/2 bag frozen veggies at dinner, that sort of thing.
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wow. veggies veggies. I'm going all-out shopping for veggies this weekend.
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Weeeelllll, you ARE a vegetarian!
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how about a bigger serving of cottage cheese? I have 5-6 oz every time I eat cottage cheese. I'm still not quite clear on what your lunch and dinner are, make sure they are distinct meals (yes, with snacks in between!) Big salad with beans and avocado on it at lunch would be good, and like pp's mentioned, lots of veggies at dinner - like, a huge serving and make sure you're generous with your olive oil or maybe add a spicy peanut sauce and make a yummy stirfry. That would definitely up your calories!
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Thanks Carabeth! I'mma try it soon
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Also, cheese on salads is good. I eat huge salads at lunch almost every day; 2 quart tupperware dish full: mixed salad greens, spinach, carrots, bell peppers red and yellow, avocado, tomato, sugar snap peas, celery, cucumber, cheese cubes or string cheese sticks sliced up, and I put tuna, turkey, or salmon on it for protein, but you could put whatever you use for protein. I also use two servings of Italian dressing (4 Tbsp). Those salads are yummy!

Also yummy is cottage cheese with cubed fruit; right now I'm on a mango kick; cubed mango in a cup of cottage cheese is awesome!
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