This isn't my ouch, but it's near and dear to my heart. My oldest sister (who is blessed with the same level of grace as me... in other words, NONE!) went for a ride on our old 10-speed wearing Dr. Scholl's sandals. Remember those?!? It didn't take long for one of them to get tangled in the chain, then the spokes... OUCH!
My children are absolutely not allowed on the treadmill unless they are wearing properly tied sneakers. If it hurts someone's feelings that I judge him or her for wearing flip flops on exercise equipment, I'm good with that
Bare feet bother me because of the possibility for fungal infections that can pass from someone else's feet to my skin!
Oh my, LancelotsLover! I totally agree. I thought we were just having fun, but oh well.
People try to make an effort to keep the forums as welcoming as they can be. With any forum, there's people who are afraid to post because they're afraid to be considered as dumb as as the person with the flip-flops and that they'll only get negative feedback. Whereas we really we really want the novices and the uninformed to come to this place and feel welcome here, so they can finally get a good source of information. A forum should totally be a place where lots of fun is had, but also a place that's open an inviting to everyone.
But yes, you didn't mean any harm, so don't feel too attacked either!
When I responded I'd not yet read beyond the first few posts, so it's nice to see a lot of people respond the way they do.
Maybe you could change directions to 'listen to the stoopid things *I* did in the gym"!
Which reminds me of the first time I thought to correct someone who was doing something totally weird (to me).. what I thought to be a triceps exercise (db triceps extension) turned out to be a pull over, which I'd seen described but never actually watched something do.
Fortunately I just asked her (or him?) what he was doing & why...
Boy, Hazeldazel, I bet you didn't have any idea what a debate you'd start raging with your original post!
For realz - it's never a good sign when you come back after the weekend and there's like 3 pages after your first post.
I still think the flip-flop chick was stoopid because it wasn't safe, if you really did forget your shoes then go on the stationary bike, the recombant bike, the elliptical, the rowing machine or even the other stairmasters that have the pedals.
That said, I've done stoopid stuff too, which the other dudes at the gym (great bunch of regulars) have helpfully pointed out to me. My favorite: Learning that when you're on the seated calf machine that you're supposed to lift up the weights and then pull out the lever - and not just clank the weights up and down 1" like I *had* been doing. Wow! Seated calf raises are teh eazy!
Haha. So my stupid (embarrassing) moment was recently. I had been trying to find a way to add 5 pound increments to the seated row machine, where the plates only go up in 10 pound increments. (no, they don't have those nice slider weights on the poles.) I saw a guy putting a 5 pound flat plate weight on, resting it on the pin you insert, and thought "hey, what a good idea!" So I got the plate, put the pin through the hole, inserted pin into the weight stack, and proceeded to start my row set. Well, on rep 2, the pin fell out, the flat weight fell to the floor, and the plates crashed back to the stack!!! Of course, there were about 5 guys using the other nearby stations at the time, and of course all of them start staring at me like, what the hell is that crazy chick doing? And the man who had given me the idea in the first place comes over and says, "uh, you have to make sure the pin is all the way in the stack, and you rest the plate on the round part of the knob, you can't put the plate between the knob and the stack or there's not enough pin length inserted." "Ooohhhhh, is THAT how you did it?" So he tries to help me, but the pin is bent from the crash, and there we are with him holding the pin between the plates, and me dropping the plates down onto it to try to straighten it! It was waaay embarrassing!
Haha. So my stupid (embarrassing) moment was recently. I had been trying to find a way to add 5 pound increments to the seated row machine, where the plates only go up in 10 pound increments. (no, they don't have those nice slider weights on the poles.) I saw a guy putting a 5 pound flat plate weight on, resting it on the pin you insert, and thought "hey, what a good idea!" So I got the plate, put the pin through the hole, inserted pin into the weight stack, and proceeded to start my row set. Well, on rep 2, the pin fell out, the flat weight fell to the floor, and the plates crashed back to the stack!!! Of course, there were about 5 guys using the other nearby stations at the time, and of course all of them start staring at me like, what the hell is that crazy chick doing? And the man who had given me the idea in the first place comes over and says, "uh, you have to make sure the pin is all the way in the stack, and you rest the plate on the round part of the knob, you can't put the plate between the knob and the stack or there's not enough pin length inserted." "Ooohhhhh, is THAT how you did it?" So he tries to help me, but the pin is bent from the crash, and there we are with him holding the pin between the plates, and me dropping the plates down onto it to try to straighten it! It was waaay embarrassing!
But......now I know how to add my 5 pounds!
Huh...I do that all the time and the plate is between the knob and the plates, not on the knob. It depends on the length of the pin I guess. On one of our machines the pin isn't long enough either way, but the other one I have no problems.
So, I finish my workout and step out of the shower at the gym only to find a woman on the scale. She is looking at her numbers, sighs heavily, steps off, remove her FLIP FLOPS and steps back on the scale! Honestly, do you think your flimsy flip flops will make a difference in your weight?!? I almost snorted out loud, but managed to keep a straight face! Lol!
So, I finish my workout and step out of the shower at the gym only to find a woman on the scale. She is looking at her numbers, sighs heavily, steps off, remove her FLIP FLOPS and steps back on the scale! Honestly, do you think your flimsy flip flops will make a difference in your weight?!? I almost snorted out loud, but managed to keep a straight face! Lol!
*ducks* Umm..yeah...I've been know to take off my jewelry, too. Oh, and I'd never measure when I got OUT of the shower. My hair holds a TON of water!
*ducks* Umm..yeah...I've been know to take off my jewelry, too. Oh, and I'd never measure when I got OUT of the shower. My hair holds a TON of water!
LOL, that's me exactly. I will actually get on the scale in the morning with my flannel pj's on and take them off while on the scale to see how much weight they added. And hey they add about 1-1/2 lbs. And my hair is long...it holds a lot of water.
Yep.. yep. Except that I'm amazed you all go through the trouble of even wearing a watch , glasses etc before weighing.. I'm just going to the bath room straight out of bed (most of the year w/o even putting clothes on ... ) and then after washing hands & drying them carefully, as this influences BIA readings, weigh myself.. get dressed and then do a BIA-reading.. gives hands time to dry up some more.
I see this upon re-reading. However, the clothes would influence the BIA reading and given that the reading is already wonky makes no sense to me to be adding.
LOL @ weighing w clothes on! Of course not!
MissJane got it right: I don't even need to take clothes or anything else off before weighing... it's after the weighing that I put on clothes and then do the BIA since that gives hands extra time to dry out more.
The only time you'd keep your clothes on (or at the very least your underwear) is when weighing in front of others: doctor's office, competition weigh-ins or a gym's locker room.
Which brings me back to how this got brought up.. I wondered if she had nothing on except her flip-flops? I'd still be too self-conscious to ever weigh myself nekkid in a gym's locker room.
I do however weigh myself on the public scale in the 'bro' gym .. then of course with ALL gym clothes on .. not so much to get an accurate reading of how much I weigh with clothes on, but to get an idea of how heavy all kind of gym equipment is.. my very first hour back in the gym was spent weighing myself plus various bars, disks and dumbbells, since that gym has a totally crazy assortment of 'stuff' of which a lot don't even have indications.. and when they do it's either kg or lbs-es..
That brings us back to the original topic.. others may have thought I was totally out of my mind when weighing myself with all that 'gym stuff'. But it was what made this gym acceptable for a precise person like me to work out in..
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Originally Posted by DanceDiva
I see this upon re-reading. However, the clothes would influence the BIA reading and given that the reading is already wonky makes no sense to me to be adding.
Maybe.. maybe not. Moistness (is that a proper word?) definitely influences conductivity. The other alternative is to not wash hands but in that case I want to go back to the bath room again (actually it's shower & toilet) since there's no sink upstairs where the scale is. Putting on clothes first is the better alternative before people think I'm totally & entirely OCD/anal retentive..
Are you at home, but use communal bathroom facilities? If so putting on clothes is a good thing. Since weight is factored into the BIA equation, yes clothes affect the %.
ETA: and since you don't know if the device treats the clothes as fat or lean, it may not be to your advantage. I just did a quick experiment with my scale: one set of clothes was treated as fat, another as lean, and 6 lbs of books as fat.
DanceDiva, the only other person(s) at home are my SO & a very fat cat that I sometimes also weigh while standing on the scale as well. The only factor that makes me put on clothes is when it's really cold or I'm expecting visitors..
The BIA device is a hand-held one and I was assuming there's no difference between being clad (again, is this a proper word?) or not as I simply set it on the weight that I had without clothes on.
Dang.. now you almost make me want to experiment 3 ways..
1 weigh myself w/o clothes & do the BIA right afterwards,
2 weigh myself w/o clothes & do the BIA after getting dressed (put in undressed wt)
3 weigh myself with clothes on & put in the 'clad'weight and once again, do the BIA.. this #3 barely makes sense as this is 'dead' weight.. and has no extra info. Especially not since all the device feels are my hands.. not clothes or anything.
That's why I don't care about measuring with or w/o clothes on, as you only hold it in the hands.. Tanita OTOH weighs and measures at the same time, that would be a different thing.
I just started wondering if conductivity changes somehow when you have clothes on, just like how some clothes can make you gain static electricity (sorry, can't explain myself here properly).. that might change the conductivity. After all, it's influenced by female hormone levels as well (indirectly mostly because of water retention)..but I may be overthinking here.. and it's been eons since I had any type of training on electricity! Maybe Anne (realcdn) could help us out here?
I just started wondering if conductivity changes somehow when you have clothes on, just like how some clothes can make you gain static electricity (sorry, can't explain myself here properly).. that might change the conductivity. After all, it's influenced by female hormone levels as well (indirectly mostly because of water retention)..but I may be overthinking here.. and it's been eons since I had any type of training on electricity! Maybe Anne (realcdn) could help us out here?
Ummm... I may have got 90+ in my introduction to electricity class, but I don't think bio-impedance was even a topic.
However, stealing this from someone selling bodyfat analyzers....
"Muscles, blood vessels and bones are body tissues with a high water content that conducts electricity easily. Body fat is tissue that has little electrical conductivity."
In theory, adding weight of a non-conductive material (I picked up one of my plastic-covered sand weights) should raise bodyfat percentage as I was adding non-conductive material. It did in fact raise my bodyfat by the same number of pounds I picked up. That seems to prove the point.
However, I then picked up a conductor (some unknown metal that the 25-lb weight is made of) and again, my bodyfat went up, although by only 15-lbs, so maybe it does kind of prove the point.
I know for a fact that tap water (which has minerals in it) is a conductor and it worked as I expected. In my case, wetting the scale definitely dropped BF%.
Well, at least it proves the case for not wanting to do the test with moist hands. But as far as I remember.. bf% went down after no longer doing it too soon after washing my hands.
Can always try it both ways , huh...
A pity you can't say much about changes in conductivity from wearing clothes..
A pity you can't say much about changes in conductivity from wearing clothes..
I would think unless you were very light, or wearing a lot of clothing, that it wouldn't make that big a difference in the percentage. I'm not going to pile on the winter gear to check it out... but feel free.
Was referring to static electricity from clothes having an influence on conductivity.. I also seem to see a difference from standing on a different type of floor..
Wow! Seated calf raises are teh eazy!
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