Just to clarify terminology, prone means face down. It's the opposite of supine, which means face up. I'm pretty sure you're asking about a tuck and a pike, both of which are prone.
You'd start with the tuck movement, which is a bit easier to perform, and progress to the pike movement. It sounds like you've already found the other threads where we discussed the jackknife. I know Natalia put up some good videos of the pike movement.
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