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Old 06-05-2008, 07:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Someone asked about the ratios between different lifts in their workout log and I supplied this link. I thought I'd post it here so we have it, in case others are interested.

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Hey, that's really interesting! Thanks, Jane!
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Wow, there's lots of neat info on that site! Thanks!

I'm a little depressed about seeing how much I "should" be lifting, though.

I'm wondering why a person should be able to lift more, the heavier they are. Are those charts assuming that the extra weight is due to muscle and not fat?
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Wow, there's lots of neat info on that site! Thanks!

I'm a little depressed about seeing how much I "should" be lifting, though.

I'm wondering why a person should be able to lift more, the heavier they are. Are those charts assuming that the extra weight is due to muscle and not fat?
me too. I definitely consider myself more than novice yet not even hitting those weights!
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Thanks a lot for posting that, Jane. The one-rep max calculator was particularly good - nice to see how you rate against an objective standard. Feels good to see how all the hard work is paying off!
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Remember, those are 1RM suggested weights.
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me too. I definitely consider myself more than novice yet not even hitting those weights!
There may be a terminology mismatch here.

According to MissJane's link, Kilgore and Rippetoe consider a characteristic of an intermediate to be success at the recreational level in sports. In Practical Programming for Strength Training, where the tables were first printed an intermediate is further defined as a trainee who has exhausted gains from linear programming and requires weekly periodization (ie, a trainee who can no longer get stronger each workout since the stress required to cause adaptation can not be recovered from in the time between two workouts).

By their definitions only barbell athletes, strongman athletes, heavy field event athletes and highland games athletes are likely to ever be advanced or elite, the relative importance of sport specific practice vs strength training precluding the need for advanced (monthly) or elite (annual) periodization for other athletes.

Someone interested primarily in fitness and not in strength may never require intermediate programming, according to these definitions (where the different classifications refer to the training model required for further advancement, not the time spent training).
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That is really interesting, Jane, thanks for that. Although I was quite depressed at first when I didn't realize it was 1RM--I thought I was quite wimpy...
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