JP Fitness Forums - Personal Training  
Google
 
Web forums.jpfitness.com

Go Back   JP Fitness Forums - Personal Training > The New Rules of Lifting > New Rules of Lifting for Women
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

New Rules of Lifting for Women Based on Lou's new book with Cosgrove and Forsythe

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-19-2008, 10:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
MLE_119
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3
Default Not feeling the burn.

I am in stage one and just completed workout 3. I just don't feel like this workout is enough for me. Before doing NROL4W, I did Body for Life for a year. So I am used to do a lot more set and a lot more reps. I used to be able to feel a bit of soreness in my muscles after every workout. Now, nothing.

While doing BFL, I was already doing intervals for cardio (20 minutes on the treadmill), so I am just continuing to do that on T/TH/S, my days off from lifting.

So my question is, does this get more challenging as I go? I have upped my weights and I am lifting heavy, but I just don't feel like I am really getting a good workout. I have read the book and everything makes sense, but I just want to be challenged! Is it ok to skip to stage 2? Has anyone else experienced this? I just am afraid as the reps go down even more, I am not going to get as good of workout even with upping the weights. I just want to feel like I did a workout!

--Emily
MLE_119 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2008, 11:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
Brianne
missing Texas...
 
Brianne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: SLC, Utah
Posts: 38
Default

yes, it will get harder as you continue on. however, imo, if it seems easy in stage 1 you aren't going heavy enough.
__________________
Brianne is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 04-19-2008, 11:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
MightyAl
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 44
Default

Hello Emily,

I too feel there's not enough work. I'm used to doing more sets/rep and the workout (at least stage one) as layed out in the book is too short. The first time I did it I finished in about 20 minutes. I posted about this a few weeks back and got some good feedback from some members. Is that it?

I do think the exercises selection and the way they are sequenced is intense and I lift as heavy as I can and keep the rest periods minimal but the workouts are just too short for me. So, I've been adding an extra set to each exercise. I'm on Stage One as well but on workout #5. I'm sure I won't be able to keep this up with subsequent stages as there are intervals tacked on to some of the workouts but for now I'll keeping doing what I'm doing.

Anyway, if you read the responses I received to the thread I linked, you'll notice there are a few others that felt the same way but they've stayed with the program and most say the subsequent stages are more challenging.

Alexandra
MightyAl is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2008, 12:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
Bytsi
Senior Hamster
 
Bytsi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,336
Default

Make sure you are doing AS HEAVY AS YOU CAN with each exercise. Before this, I lifted heavy, and did many more sets/reps, and when I looked at the workouts I thought "that's gonna be too easy, maybe I should skip stage 1." But, I figured out pretty quickly that I hadn't been lifting anywhere near as heavy as I was capable of.

The other thing is be sure you are only resting 60 seconds between sets - that makes a big difference to me and my level of exhaustion when I'm done.

Hope that helps
__________________
Bytsi
Hamster training log
Be careful about reading health books - you may die of a misprint -- Mark Twain
Bytsi is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2008, 07:43 AM   #5 (permalink)
LaraT
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 383
Default

I thought the same thing at first...but TRUST THE PROGRAM. Everything from the exercise choices, order, sets, reps, rest, etc is thought out carefully. As you move through Stage 1 the reps go down so you can use heavier and heavier weights.

Seriously, when I first started I worried that it wasn't enough. I had been doing *more* prior to NROL4W on my own...but at the end of the Stage 1 I saw progress like I had never seen before.

And yes, it gets A LOT harder as you move through the Stages. Enjoy the 30 minute or so workouts now....they quickly get longer and more intense..
LaraT is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2008, 03:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
beospenser
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12
Default

I add intervals 3x/week right after the weight work and try to do some other cardio (spinning, step or kickboxing) on the "off" days.
beospenser is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2008, 04:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
Morondava
Member
 
Morondava's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 53
Default

Add weights with every set if needed if you don't feel challenged. I think stage 1 is largely about figuring out how much you need to lift. This morning, I did deadlifts. I had some energy left after the first set, so I added 5 pounds. I realized that next time, I'll need to add another five. That's what I did for all of them. Rather, rinse, repeat, and you get to a point where it's challenging quickly enough.
Morondava is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2008, 05:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
MLE_119
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3
Default

Thanks for the input! I will continue on with what I am doing and load myself up with more weight I guess! I actually need to go buy heavier weights since I am using all that I have now. (I do all my workouts at home).

I upped the weights again today (on each set) so we'll see if I feel it at all in my quads by morning. I usually feel my workouts in my upper body, but not in the lower body.

Thanks, again!
MLE_119 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2008, 05:18 PM   #9 (permalink)
rixatrix
Senior Member
 
rixatrix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 535
Default

If you think of Stage 1 as a sort of break in, then if you're an intermediate or advanced lifter, it might not make you very sore.

Just wait.
__________________
"Men are taught to apologize for their weaknesses, women for their strengths." - Lois Wyse

My training log
rixatrix is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2008, 05:42 PM   #10 (permalink)
kfisherx
Luv'n Lift'n
 
kfisherx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,063
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MLE_119 View Post
I am in stage one and just completed workout 3. I just don't feel like this workout is enough for me. Before doing NROL4W, I did Body for Life for a year. So I am used to do a lot more set and a lot more reps. I used to be able to feel a bit of soreness in my muscles after every workout. Now, nothing.

While doing BFL, I was already doing intervals for cardio (20 minutes on the treadmill), so I am just continuing to do that on T/TH/S, my days off from lifting.

So my question is, does this get more challenging as I go? I have upped my weights and I am lifting heavy, but I just don't feel like I am really getting a good workout. I have read the book and everything makes sense, but I just want to be challenged! Is it ok to skip to stage 2? Has anyone else experienced this? I just am afraid as the reps go down even more, I am not going to get as good of workout even with upping the weights. I just want to feel like I did a workout!

--Emily
I challenge your assertion that you are lifting heavy enough. Stage one has 2x15 squats. Your ass would be good and kicked on just that one if you were lifting to your potential. I could still get a good workout from stage 1 even though I am lifting longer programs right now by adjusting the weights to an appropriate level. 2x15 step ups to a bench with 25e db in hand wouldl kick just about any of us for example. You should be lifting weights so heavy that you can barely get out the last rep on any set. Your whole body should be shaking from the effort that you are putting into it.

My bet is that you are rushing the exercises and cheating the form more than that you are super duper fit from working body for life for a year.
kfisherx is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:39 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0

 

Web

forums.jpfitness.com

 

web stats