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Old 04-02-2008, 08:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I realize I'm completely jumping the gun, but I'm thinking ahead to circa June 15, 2008 when I will be finished with the book. Has anyone thought about what your routine will look like after this? Will you start over with heavier weights? Plan your own routine (and if so, what kind of exercises will you include)? Pick up a new book? Kidnap Alwyn Cosgrove and hold him hostage in your basement until he's written a customized plan for you?
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Old 04-02-2008, 08:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm probably going back to NROL (where I came from).
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Kidnap Alwyn Cosgrove and hold him hostage in your basement until he's written a customized plan for you?
After I am done with NROL and NRoL4W I am considering Afterburn. But it will depend where my body is at that point.
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I was trying to decide on whether to do NROL or just starting NROL4W again with increased weights. Although I'd be up for the kidnapping Alwyn Cosgrove idea and a customized plan.
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I've read NROL and love it and will probably move to it after.
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My bf just got NROL so I'll probably do that after NROL4W... after that though... who knows! I'll probably find another book and plan though, because I do SO much better when I have someone (even in book form) telling me what to do... if you leave me to my own devices I won't get anything done, haha!
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Either Afterburn or Turbulence training, depending on if I still have fat to lose.
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I am planning on NROL and possibly TT in the far future.
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:56 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I was planning on world domination, but maybe NROL instead?
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Old 04-02-2008, 11:36 AM   #10 (permalink)
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So what are "Afterburn" and "Turbulence Training"? I did a quick search on Amazon and neither came up---well, "Afterburn" did, but none of the books had anything to do with fitness. ;-/
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Old 04-02-2008, 01:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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They are ebooks not physical ones

http://www.afterburntraining.com

Fat Loss Quick Weight Loss Turbulence Training Burn Fat
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Old 04-02-2008, 01:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm probably going back to NROL (where I came from).
Same here. I only tinkered with NROL last year so want to take it on seriously all of the way through when finished with NR4W.

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Kidnap Alwyn Cosgrove and hold him hostage in your basement until he's written a customized plan for you?
Can I substitute "and torture him with a million paper cuts" for the "until he's written a customized plan for you"?
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Old 04-02-2008, 02:46 PM   #13 (permalink)
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For me it will probably be a repeat with heavier weights, as I still have a very long way to go. I'm hoping that my form will get better with a repeat.
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With the way RedWifey is progressing, we'll probably start with a new wardrobe and a hella fun 10-year anniversary trip. After that she'll probably keep lifting heavy stuff and then putting it down repeatedly.
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Old 04-02-2008, 03:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I have not done NROL so will probably read and do that one or the TT one that you all mentioned....
Here are some that I have done, and have loved. Or just look up these authors, they are all sort of tied in some way and I have seen them all in Men's Health Magazine (and others) as contributing authors or just quotes, etc....
They seem to have similar beliefs on training, health, and fitness in general

Afterburn I and II by Alwyn Cosgrove (haven't tried II but I am pretty sure he wrote a new one) Mine is a spiral bound book so I am pretty sure I ordered it and not straight download, but I probably ordered from his website and not amazon??
Core Performance by Mark Verstegen (tried and liked)
The Book of Muscle (highly recommend) by Ian King and you guessed it....Lou Schuler!

Just my two cents, but I am taking notes on all these other programs/books that you are all recommending to try.....any thoughts out there about CrossFit? I had not heard of that until I got on this forum and then checked it out....thoughts?
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Old 04-02-2008, 06:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I already read NROL but hadn't started it yet, so I'll move on to that.

Yup and I'm horrible without guidance.
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Maybe by the time I finish NROLFW I will have moved and can do NROL with my husband. Which means, I would finally be getting him started on it, since he has already read it.
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:33 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Default Keep on alternating Stage 7 workouts?

Is anyone else thinking of alternating the six workouts in Stage 7 for another 2-3 months after completing NROL4W? They look tough, so it might be hard/impossible to sustain but I can dream...

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I believe that when you order Afterburn, you receive hard copies and they are not e-books. I am planning on ordering and went through the process to make sure and you are charged shipping and asked your address. I really want to try Afterburn when I am done, but I also need to take a look at the original NROL.

Is there anyone doing afterburn right now? If so, can you post your impressions. I know the intervals are more frequent which I believe I probably need to lose more fat. I am unsure how the weight workouts are different (if they even are).
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Old 04-03-2008, 09:15 AM   #20 (permalink)
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This article gives the Afterburn interval training schedule
Bodybuilding.com - Alwyn Cosgrove - Energy System Training For Fat Loss!

I wonder if that can be tacked on to NROLW?
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Thank you for that link Diva - so helpful!!
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Based on this link Afterburn Training - Men's Fitness I'm seeing a lot of similarities between the Men's Fitness reprint of Alwyn Cosgrove's AfterBurn Training program.

Does that mean there are lots of similarities between Alwyn's Cosgrove program and NROL4W? Does anyone have AfterBurn? Can you comment on the similarities/differences?

I hear that $60 for AfterBurn buys you a binder with approx 120 pages of photocopied material that includes exercises, a 16-week routine with diet & menus. NROL4W includes twice the number of pages of material (retail: $16). As much as I am a fan of Alwyn and want to fund his future development my spouse is out of work right now.

Just looking ahead to when I finish NROL4W...

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I was planning on world domination, but maybe NROL instead?
LOL!

Dunno yet...either Cathe's STS, a kettlebell rotation, or NROL. I also have Several training/rotation plans that I copied off T-Nation (Real Fast Fat Loss, etc)...so many choices for one body!!!
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I have Afterburn and started the program before NROLW came out. I stopped about one month in and switched to NROLW since I am new to heavier lifting and felt NROLW was a better place for a novice.

I ordered from Alwyn's site and the book isn't a download. He actually sends you the 100+ pages in a binder.

You will instantly recognize it's Alwyn's workout. He uses essentially all of the same exercises, but obviously in a different program. I think it would be great after completing NROLW, b/c it starts out with the harder exercises from the get-go (ex: you don't build up to doing bulgarian split squats....you do them from day one).

The other main difference that I noticed: interval training done 3x/week for the first month and then increasing after that. By month 4, you are doing it 5x/week.

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I ordered from Alwyn's site and the book isn't a download. He actually sends you the 100+ pages in a binder.
Thank you for the info - it's always hard to order something sight unseen (even if Alwyn wrote it!). I'll have to consider it - do you think there's a lot of "new" information (that wasn't in NROL4W or NROL), or just different workouts / exercise combinations mainly?
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Just read through some of the links, and one of Alwyn's fat-burning programmes builds up to 6 sessions of HIIT per week! Each one nearly 30 minutes. I thought 2-3 sessions per week was the absolute maximum for this type of training, especially considering that's on top of lifting weight 3 times a week?
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I don't know if this will be helpful, but I COULD just type out what is on Afterburn on here?? I feel bad everyone having to buy it for so much....but don't want to get into any "grey areas" of copyrights, etc??? I could just summarize, or list the workouts....because you are right, you pay a bunch for some copied sheets that are spiral bound together....no biggie really and 1/2 of it, like most books, is the explanations/pics of exercises.....

Just a suggestion...I will do it if it's ok and if it will be helpful to anyone??

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I don't know if this will be helpful, but I COULD just type out what is on Afterburn on here?? I feel bad everyone having to buy it for so much....but don't want to get into any "grey areas" of copyrights, etc??? I could just summarize, or list the workouts....because you are right, you pay a bunch for some copied sheets that are spiral bound together....no biggie really and 1/2 of it, like most books, is the explanations/pics of exercises.....

Just a suggestion...I will do it if it's ok and if it will be helpful to anyone??

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It's not a grey area, its a pretty black and white area. I don't have it but I'm pretty sure if you look in there there will be a copyright notice that states it is not to be reproduced without permission.

Even if there isn't there is a big difference between lending a book to someone and putting the text up on a public forum where anyone and everyone can gain access.

If Alwyn wanted to give it away he would. He chooses to charge for it and you have to respect that. If you don't lawyers tend to get involved and I would be very surprised if any of the mods here would let it be posted anyhow.
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I don't know if this will be helpful, but I COULD just type out what is on Afterburn on here?? I feel bad everyone having to buy it for so much....but don't want to get into any "grey areas" of copyrights, etc??? I could just summarize, or list the workouts....because you are right, you pay a bunch for some copied sheets that are spiral bound together....no biggie really and 1/2 of it, like most books, is the explanations/pics of exercises.....

Just a suggestion...I will do it if it's ok and if it will be helpful to anyone??

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