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Old 03-12-2008, 11:10 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I'm DL 75lbs but I'm squating 115. Is this weird?
I'm approaching the end of Stage 1, but I'm seeing the exact opposite thing! I can DL 95 lbs, but my squats are still at 55 lbs. Maybe it's because I have short legs and longer arms?
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Old 03-12-2008, 11:39 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I dunno, I'm squatting 85 pounds (if I remember correctly) and DL'ing 100. I'm not 100% sure, but I would guess that it depends on your relative quad/ham strength to your core strength. Doesn't the DL require more strength from your back than a squat? And squats put more emphasis on your quads & hams than a DL? So maybe if you already have really strong legs, you are able to squat more than you can DL.

Then again, I have a long torso and arms, so maybe we're both weird. :p

I could be totally wrong, though.
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:19 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I am officially de-lurking to say keep up the great work and to say thanks for all the tips and inspiration!

I am somewhere in the middle of Stage One as well. I wanted to work on form before I upped the weights.

I weight lifted extensively in high school so I am familiar with most of the lifts. I got out of it when I went to college and was just running long distances, and have only been doing cardio with some light lifting ever since. Needless to say, I have been pretty much the same weight for 4 years doing this and eating the same and am looking forward to a change!
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:20 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Wow I am impressed. I am in week 5 and loving it. I have bumped my weights up substatially and I finally feel like I am getting into the grove. Not so much cardio which goes against everything I have every been taught. I haven't lost much weigh..Ok with that because I feel good.
I look forward to seeing everyone progress. I think it is fair to say We are "official"

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Old 03-12-2008, 02:21 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Another Week 2'er here...I did 3A this morning. I can't lift as much as some of you lovely ladies (think I did 18pd for squats this morning, 16 for stepups) but I think if I continue to up the weight as Stage 1 goes along, it'll get up there eventually!

Still can't do floor pushups, but I did go down another 3 inches...tough stuff!

I'm liking the A workout more than the B....must be the lunges, which are killer!
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Old 03-12-2008, 02:44 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I read an interesting thing about pushups the other day. (Probably from Lisa~...that sounds right, doesn't it? lol)

Anyway, whoever posted it said that full pushups were like doing presses with 60% (I think...or maybe it was 80%) of your body weight. When I read that I knew instantly why I still can't do full pushups. lol We'll get there, though!


ETA...It was from LisaS and on this thread (post 16). She said she thinks she remembers learning that full pushups are like moving 60% of your bodyweight...imagine benching 60% of your body weight. I'm at 256, so I'd have to bench press about 154 lbs. Yep...not there yet.

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Old 03-12-2008, 08:09 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I pulled out the bathroom scale recently to do a pushup on it, and in plank position, it read 115 pounds .. yikes. I'm 165ish, so that ratio sounds right. I'm not bothering doing pushups on the floor at this point, but staying at angles where I can touch my chest to the item I'm leaning on - currently using a bar on a bench rack at the lowest position. It's a large angle difference to move down to a bench, so I'm kind of dreading it...

btw, my DL weight is much greater than my squat weight, too. I don't have a clue if I'm long legged, short torso'd...
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:58 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Yayy...woohoo, I'm here too!! I'm just about finished Stage 1, I have the special workouts left. It's been great, I love it!!! I'm up to 115lbs deadlifts and 95lbs squats. Looking forward to getting into this site a bit more now....


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Old 03-12-2008, 09:40 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Wendy, you might also check to see if there's a trainer at your gym who can watch you do DLs to check your form. Sorry about hurting your back!
I'm actually working out at home so there's no one to check my form.Today my workout went great and my injury barely bothered me.My next workout is deadlifts so that's the one I'm going to really be careful with.I spent the better part of the day today setting up my home gym in my basement.I can't believe how much workout stuff I've aquired sheesh.lol It's nice now to have everything in one place since I had stuff strung out all over the place.

I'm really glad to see so many ladies posting on this thread.It makes it so much more fun for me to report in and such.
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:02 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Hi all~
Just joined, just figured out this thread stuff....haha and I just started the NROL4W, in Stage 1 and only in first week. It was hard to do the first day because I just finished a YEEEEEEEAR of Ian Kings' workout book "The Book of Muscle"....it was great! I feel pretty strong going into this program, just was very very ready for change. I also have done one of Alwyn Cosgrove workout programs before too (Afterburn) and since I liked that too....I did a quick search on Alwyn C. and Lou S., which brought me to this book! I think I am going to like it based on what I have heard from you all.....I guess once I figure out how to use this thing with posting workouts, pictures, progress, etc.... I will post it! haha
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:08 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Hi Nik! It sounds like you're set!

Wendy, that does present a problem. Is there any way you could get video of you doing DLs just with body weight and then watch the video and compare it to some of the sample videos out there? I'm glad to hear that it didn't hurt you today!
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Old 03-13-2008, 05:18 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Hey all, I just finished stage 2 so I hadn't come into this thread yet... but now that I have I realize I'm very similar to most of you in that my DL outweighs my squat. The different isn't huge, but I deadlifted 85 yesterday and my squat is stuck somewhere around 70-75. I don't think it's a big dilemma... actually, in my case I think I'm wary of increasing squat weight because the bar is just so dang heavy on my back and it's already getting uncomfortable. Just my 2 cents :-) You all are doing really well, keep it up! Stage 1 gets boring after a while but I loved stage 2 and it flew by sooo fast! Stage 3 tomorrow... yikes!
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Old 03-13-2008, 06:30 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Hello all! I was so excited to see there is a community of women who love this program as much as I do! I’m a little farther along in stage 1 (just did workout 7A last night), and I’m feeling great. I was not new to strength training when I started this program, but I never saw the type of results I’m seeing now. I’m not big on weighing myself or measurements, but I can see and feel a difference in my body, especially when I put my clothes on. My tummy is flatter, my legs are leaner, and I actually can feel that I have bicep muscles. My boyfriend even noticed my “new guns” J This program has kept me on track and motivated, and has given me confidence in the gym. I can walk up to the squat rack and take my place next to all the guys without hesitation now! The way the program is designed has really helped me to push myself, something I wasn’t really doing on my own. I wasn’t using “Barbie weights” before, but I definitely underestimated how much I could lift. Here’s where I am so far:

Squat – 115 (just tried this last night, and probably could have used a spotter)
DL – 75 (had trouble with these in the beginning, but definitely getting better)
Pushups – used to do these on my knees, but I can finally do 10 in the standard position, just not all the way to the floor yet
Overhead press – just upgraded to 20s, most I ever did before was 15s
Seated Row – 75
Lat pull down – 75
Step ups – 20 lb DBs
Lunges – 20 lb DBs
Crunches – 10 lb medicine ball
Prone Jacknife – can finally do these without falling off the ball, but doing 15 last night was tough!

As far as the diet goes, I was already eating about 5-6 times a day, but I have modified what I’m eating a bit to get the extra protein. This comes mostly from adding whey to my oatmeal in the morning, and having protein shakes after each workout. I don’t stick to totally healthy eating all the time (a few cheat meals and snacks a week), but for the most part I’m trying to be good J

I’ll definitely be using this site for tips and to keep me motivated as I move into stage 2!
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Old 03-13-2008, 02:28 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I'm starting 3A today. I'm still not sure where I am with most of the weights because I'm working on form. With my squats I'm only using about 20 lbs. I can't get all the way down and am working on that before I add weight. I can do at least 70 lbs for the DLs. I can probably do more because I barely feel it in my legs, but my hands hurt so much at 70, I can't imagine going higher. I hate lunges because everytime I step forward, I feel like I'm going to fall over sideways. Ugh, and the prone jacknife... I barely feel that in my stomach. My arms always give out first.

I really am loving this program. I was always afraid of the free weight area of the gym, and now I walk in and know what I'm doing. What a great feeling! Now I just can't wait until I can see or feel a difference in my body.
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Old 03-13-2008, 02:47 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Wendy, that does present a problem. Is there any way you could get video of you doing DLs just with body weight and then watch the video and compare it to some of the sample videos out there? I'm glad to hear that it didn't hurt you today!
No I don't have any way to get a video of me.I've been reading lots of books and articles on deadlifting and watching tons of videos so I'm pretty confident I can do it with good form.I'll just start small and work my way up.
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Old 03-13-2008, 04:05 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Good plan, Wendy!

Coleklan, that's probably a good idea. I've got some knee issues, so I've just been squatting as low as I can (somewhere between corners and proper squats, probably) while I'm working to strengthen my knees. I wonder if I should be following your example instead. hmmm...that might be a question for Lou! lol
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:47 PM   #47 (permalink)
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So glad you started this unofficial challenge thread!

I've been putting off starting the workouts. (For some reason I have a ridiculous amount of anxiety about going into the weight room and my gym in general.) I'm planning on beginning either Saturday or Sunday morning this weekend. I think personally it will be great to have people to be accountable to.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:53 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Go for it Poodle! Hehe. I am doing it at home but I did venture into the weight room back when I went to the gym and honestly they are SO nice in there! Those big men are the sweetest. Way nicer than our cardio bunnies were Ask them to show you how to work the squat rack. They will. Or find a trainer at the gym. They will most definitely help you. You can do it!!! Have fun. That first workout is killer but super fun.
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