hi everyone! i have been lurking around the boards for a couple of weeks now, since i began NROL4W. i just completed A5 in stage one today, and am really happy with the program so far!
up until about two months ago i was crazy into running. i would run about thirty miles every week, and while i would enjoy it once in a while, i can definitely say that i dreaded more runs than i looked forward to. the worst part was, i was burning myself out with little to show for it! when i started speaking to some women who lift before the holidays, they advised me to cut back on the running and incorporate strength training into my routine. i was afraid that if i stopped running or cut back significantly that i would gain weight, but when i began to get the same information from NROL4W, i decided to change my ways and see what happened.
i've always made an effort to eat healthy, but since i'm a vegan, i never got a lot of protein and ate a ton of carbohydrates. i was also always very concerned with how much i was eating, and would often limit my intake of even healty foods for fear of gaining weight. reading about nutrition in NROL4W has really changed my approach to food for the better. i know a lot of people interested in strength training aren't too keen on vegan diets, but since it is an ethical decision for me, i plan to stick with it. over the past month or so i have made a lot of changes, including getting as much protein as possible through beans, nuts, some whole grains, some soy foods, and rice protein powder. additionally, i've cut back on carbs in general, as much as one can while eating vegan, and i feel a lot better. i also feel better eating five or six times a day, as it keeps my energy up.
i've been watching everyone's progress so far and everything looks great. personally, i can't wait until this june when i will (hopefully) be able to do pull-ups on my own! i've already accomplished my first set of real pushups and have been increasing my weights regularly in the other exercises. as far as running goes, i've been doing three HIIT treadmill sessions each week, and i really love the fact that my body feels and looks better when i do fifteen minutes of really hard work compared to an hour or more of moderately-paced running!
You'll be posting a training log in the Training Log section? It'd be interesting to see what you come up with in terms of a vegan diet supporting a lifting routine. Welcome to the forum.
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You'll be posting a training log in the Training Log section? It'd be interesting to see what you come up with in terms of a vegan diet supporting a lifting routine. Welcome to the forum.
yes, i definitely plan to get a log up sometime in the next couple of days!
I will be interested in reading some of what you eat. I'm already sick of meat protein and know I have to find a better balance for myself. I've been working hard on increasing the protein, but everynight while I'm sleeping, I have a stomach ache. I'm not sure what from exactly (I'm going to not drink a shake with whey today) but I kind of think it's from the extra animal protein.
I will be interested in reading some of what you eat. I'm already sick of meat protein and know I have to find a better balance for myself. I've been working hard on increasing the protein, but everynight while I'm sleeping, I have a stomach ache. I'm not sure what from exactly (I'm going to not drink a shake with whey today) but I kind of think it's from the extra animal protein.
have you ever considered trying tofu? i know the jury is still out on soy, but i think most people agree that moderate amounts of are alright. tofu isn't that great on its own, but if you prepare it the right way its really good. if you are ever interested in trying out some tofu recipes i'd be glad to give you some good ones.
Oh, I love tofu, can eat it straight out of the box. In fact, many times I've eaten vegetarian for long stretches of time (made it only 1 month on a vegan diet though.) And when I eat a more "normal" diet (for me) it has much less animal protein. I've just been working on this lately, though I'm not sure it's exactly right for me. I think I have a lot of experimenting to do, which is kind of what this 6 month challenge is all about to me.
Cynic, I don't typically eat before bed. I've never been a nighttime muncher
But, I had gotten into the absolutely HORRIBLE habit of drinking wine on an empty stomach in the evenings. That is one habit I'm working hard to break. I went almost a week with no alcohol, then caved in last night (ugh.)
So once dinner is done, I'm done eating, with no desire to eat again. I may have a pot of tea if I need to try to avoid alcohol.
~~~~~~~silly me, I was wondering why you asked about what I eat, now I see it's because I said I've been getting stomach aches. Hmm....yes, all week long. I think maybe I've been eating too low calories. I did 1800 for a few days in a row, then 2 days of 1600 calories, crampy each night. One night I took my magnesium before bed like I usually do, and a few hours later thought I was dying from the stomach cramps.
I'm not exactly sure what I should be doing, but I do know I feel better with more food, so I think I will try to eat around 2000 calories for a few days, and see how things go.
I have always had a problem with IBS though, and too much fiber can really make my stomach hurt. I realized it was stupid of me to eat a full cup of Kashi GoLean Cereal yesterday. I know better than that as I can't handle psyllium of any sort. I'm sure that's what did it last night.
What does the ache feel like? I know if I endulge into too much coffee for a period of time, I start getting a burning sensation, not unlike the feeling of a chronically empty stomach.
I've also had issues digesting nuts once I came off Phase I of an atkins diet. That's one of the reasons I'm apprehensive about doing low-carb again.
How about, leaving out the caffeine, look at a long chain MUFA (mono-unsaturated fat) and protein feed before bed.
An idea would be cottage cheese and natural peanut butter (if you're not allergic). Try that, see how it feels.
Hmmm....I have had coffee in the afternoons lately as it's been cold out and coffee and a book are very comforting. Otherwise, do you think morning coffee would be an issue by night time?
I have cottage cheese and I have peanut butter....I really don't like either, lol, but I will have a 1/4 c of the cottage cheese and 1 T. peanut butter tonight and see what I think. I think I have natural PB, will have to double check first.
And I call that "feeling of a chronically empty stomach" as you described it, a pit in my stomach....like an empty hole that hurts and can't be filled. So perhaps it is a similar thing. I'm never thought about my ability to digest nuts. I eat nuts fairly regularly, I did have soynuts yesterday. I think almonds and sunflower seeds are my favorites though. I'm starting to see that I may need to really test what works and doesn't work with my body. This can be difficult.
I just drank a shake with whey, I kind of don't feel like that's my problem.
Oh, and I'm going to skip the 5-6 meal thing, I find that so constricting. I like to eat a meal and feel comfortably full, and I don't like to think about eating again until I start to feel hungry again. I'm back to 4 meals a day. At least for now.
Hmmm....I have had coffee in the afternoons lately as it's been cold out and coffee and a book are very comforting. Otherwise, do you think morning coffee would be an issue by night time?
No. The figure I heard is it takes six hours for the caffeine to leave the system, so morning coffee is not a problem, unless you're drinking 1/2 or more of a pot.
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I have cottage cheese and I have peanut butter....I really don't like either, lol,
Alright, what cheese do you like? String cheese perhaps? There is also olive oil in lieu of the PB.
Try eating something mild, but filling. I tried to choose a mild cheese, but try one you like, a low-sodium version is best. Cheese is a good choice as it's mostly casein protein.
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And I call that "feeling of a chronically empty stomach" as you described it, a pit in my stomach....like an empty hole that hurts and can't be filled. So perhaps it is a similar thing.
Have you seen a doctor about this? If it's chronic, you should have it checked out.
It could be something as harmless as an adaptation side effect or not having something to absorb some of the stomach acid before laying down or it could be worse.
Go have it checked, perferably by a gastro-intestinal specialist.
And I call that "feeling of a chronically empty stomach" as you described it, a pit in my stomach....like an empty hole that hurts and can't be filled.
This is what I felt after taking a huge pile of NSAIDs during my teeth issues (right before I had my wisdom teeth out)... and I'm pretty sure that was an ulcer.
This is what I felt after taking a huge pile of NSAIDs during my teeth issues (right before I had my wisdom teeth out)... and I'm pretty sure that was an ulcer.
That's what I'm thinking, but she should see a doctor to be certain.
I didn't have mine diagnosed because I didn't realize it till after the fact (so, of course, there's the chance I'm wrong)... but it was a sukky enough feeling (and kinda scary, actually) that the second it ever comes back I'm making an appointment.
Wow, I never would have considered an ulcer. I will do some reading on the subject and then see my doctor. Very interesting, I know nothing at all about ulcers.
BTW, I ate 1/3 c cottage cheese and 2 T of natural peanut butter along with a pot of herb tea before bed last night. I actually needed the calories so that was good. I had no stomach cramps at all, but my husband was in the bathroom most the night and had fever and chills. Wonder what he has.
Oh, and Cynic, you said "look at a long chain MUFA (mono-unsaturated fat) and protein feed before bed." What exactly is that about or do you have a link to what I should be reading up on?
Oh, and Cynic, you said "look at a long chain MUFA (mono-unsaturated fat) and protein feed before bed." What exactly is that about or do you have a link to what I should be reading up on?
Well, fat slows down digestion and absorbtion. When it breaks down, its molecules are large, enough to run interference in the intestine.
If you were to eat a full fat cottage cheese, you'd be getting some saturated fat, which is good. The protein in cottage cheese is also predominantly casein, which is slow digesting/absorbing/metabolizi ng. I think it may be one of the best things you can eat in preperation for the overnight fast that occurs during sleep.
Along with some mono-unstaturated fat source, such as nut butters and olive oils, you'll maintain a decent fat intake ratio.
However, if you're on the TNT diet, cottage cheese may be restricted. Consider string cheese or cream cheese. Cream cheese actually has a very low protein content, but it's yummy.
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