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Old 01-31-2008, 08:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Not in my workouts, those are going fine. But, in my diet. It is absolutely horrible! I just can't get focused. I nibble and munch all day and just now I had a couple of twinkies for dessert. (I know...bad, bad, bad)

I know what I should and shouldn't eat...I just can't get my diet together. I know I should keep a food diary, and sporadically do that...but, it's tedious.

Now, next week we are leaving for our first ever cruise. I have every intention of not "pigging out", but with how I am eating now...who knows.

OK, I'm mostly whining here.....but, I do feel better now that I've whined about it!


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Have you tried fitday? I know some people don't like it, but I'm new to the whole "tracking" thing and it's been working out well for me. I tend to eat many of the same things so it saves them and I just keep track throughout the day of what I eat.
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Not in my workouts, those are going fine. But, in my diet. It is absolutely horrible! I just can't get focused. I nibble and munch all day and just now I had a couple of twinkies for dessert. (I know...bad, bad, bad)

I know what I should and shouldn't eat...I just can't get my diet together. I know I should keep a food diary, and sporadically do that...but, it's tedious.

Now, next week we are leaving for our first ever cruise. I have every intention of not "pigging out", but with how I am eating now...who knows.

OK, I'm mostly whining here.....but, I do feel better now that I've whined about it!


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Hey, Jodi. Why did you eat the twinkie? Because it was probably in your house I assume. I like what Dr. Berardi says about it:

Berardi's First Law:

1. If a food is in your possession or located in your residence, you will eventually eat it.


Corollary to Berardi's First Law

a) If you wish to be healthy and lean, you must remove all foods not conducive to those goals from said residence and replace them with a variety of better, healthier choices.
Second Corollary to Berardi's First Law

b) If you know someone whose house is stocked only with optimal food choices and yet who is not healthy and lean, look under his bed.

So, not having nutrition-void stuff in our houses helps a lot. I know I'd be tempted to eat cheese and bread all the time if I had loads of them at home.

Then, are you consuming most of your cals during the day? 'Cos if you are not, this could be the reason you are hungry at night. Just a thought....
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I was going to say this:

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If a food is in your possession or located in your residence, you will eventually eat it.
but Natalia said it (quoted it?) much better than I would have

So, get up, go to the kitchen, and throw away the Twinkies! Now! Go!

Then, forget about what you ate up to now, and get back on track. Small successes are what you need now. I don't know which time zone you're in, but in mine, I would just concentrate on not eating any more today. Actually, we're in the same time zone, so, unless you work overnight, no more food for tonight :-) And make a plan for tomorrow: cut up veggies, thaw some lean meat so it's ready for lunch or dinner tomorrow, etc...

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Not everyone can throw out all the "other" food in the house. If I lived here alone, I would have that option. I do try to keep stuff hidden, and I don't buy much junk for others (they buy it themselves.)

Obviously I'm not a good person to comment on eating issues, but I think I'd go on the cruise, get as much exercise in while on it that is reasonable, and enjoy the food. All my friends who've been on cruises say everything is delicious. Enjoy lots of steamed shrimp, fruit salads and veggies...maybe just really watch the excess carby stuff (and booze of course)

I hope you have a great vacation, and think how motivated you'll be to get back on plan once your back.
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I have a suggestion for the cruise and that is to eat in the formal dining room for as many meals as possible. You get a starter, salad, and entree but its in controlled portions. If you go to the buffet, there is more of a tendency to eat and eat and eat. I know since I went on a Western Caribbean cruise for new years.
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Old 01-31-2008, 10:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I am in the same boat. I have been doing my workouts but have been nibbling on anything I can find. I purchased Kisses with carmel, heart Reeses, and Jelly Bellies to "decorate" and for my kids (what was I thinking). I swear, everytime I walk by I grab one. I am keeping track, but the last few days while my calories have been fine, my carbs are way too high and I am filling my diet with about 200-400 empty calories.

Best of luck. I know it helps when I keep track and it helps me limit my sweets, even though I need to get rid of it all. I completely agree that if it is not available you won't have an opportunity to cheat. Thanks everyone for your tips!

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jhardy, it sounds like you're succumbing to a sweet tooth.

Snack on fruit.

Make a fruit fluff cup:

1/4 cp heavy whipping cream.
1/4 cp fruit/berries.

Puree the fruit.
Whip up the cream and blend in the fruit.
One pkt of slenda.

It's pretty good.
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Thanks, guys, I know having bad foods in the house is a no-no. No excuse for it, it's just hubby and I in the house. I am like Jen, I cave-in to my sweet tooth. I like Cynic's fruit recipe and once I dig out from the big snow we had last night...I'm venturing to the store to by some heavy cream and fresh fruit.

My diet has been so inconsistant, I had even considered dropping out of the challenge. But, I'm not....going to buckle down and get things together.


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I would also say that, in my own experience, when I'm eating enough of good foods, I don't often crave little extras. You might try bumping up your calories a little bit with high quality foods - add walnuts to your cereal, eat 1c. of cottage cheese instead of a 1/2 c., bump up your portions of protein, fit in a few more vegetable servings (sneak them in). If you're never hungry, you're less likely to snack on goodies. I wholeheartedly agree with others above - if you can rid your house of junk, do it. I've had a few nights at home, craving something sweet, yet unwilling to get dressed and leave the house to go get it. Put yourself between a rock and a hard place, with fruit as the only thing to snack on, and you'll get through those rough patches just fine. And the occasions where you actually leave the house to get chocolate (or whatever your personal sin is) become so rare, you forgive yourself for those few monumental cravings.
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Another way is to change the way you view the food in the house. Do you steal your co-workers food out of the fridge at work? I highly doubt it.

I buy food for me and I buy food for hubby. I don't eat his and he doesn't eat mine. Obviously there is some we share but for the most part we eat pretty differently.
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My diet has been so inconsistant, I had even considered dropping out of the challenge. But, I'm not....going to buckle down and get things together.
bah, humbug. If the Dolphins could play out their whole season you can stay in a challenge even if you don't feel like it sometimes
that's the point - you stay with it BECAUSE you said you'd be in it until July not because you feel all warm and fuzzy about it every day. Don't fall prey to the ever-tempting "I can't win so I'll stop playing" mentality. (is that enough of a kick cuz it's about all I can muster up this morning)

On the eats - one thing I've heard if you need to have those things in the house for others - rearrange things so that they are all in one cabinet or all on one shelf - and then stay away from that door.
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And put a padlock on it
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OMG...the Snack Safe is hysterical!!! (but, it totally makes sense!)
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A twinkie? Really? A twinkie? A DAMN TWINKIE?!? You know they were all made 50 years ago, right? GROSS!

You're just being a brat. You want to have a nice perfect body with no work. So do the rest of us. Too bad there's that reality thing, huh. I mean, come on... you're not even for quality in your indiscretions. You pick a stupid, nasty, disgusting twinkie for crying out loud. What the hell is wrong with you, anyway? Sheesh!

ok. So, what I've found is that there's a balance I have to have. If I deny everything, I go really well for a while, then one slip turns into a huge downhill slide. If I have something here and there then I tend to have it more and more often. If I allow candy, but take away grains (cake, cookies, etc) and beans like on HELL, it actually works out ok. Because I can only eat so much raw sugar, but the grains+sugars are the big calorie sinks that bring me back for more, and more, and more and more and .... well, you get the idea.

You need to find your ok zone were you're not going insane from nothing, but not having stuff constantly, feeding the sugar which just calls to its own. Part of that is focusing on the things you can have guilt free. Then it becomes easier to choose between that nasty twinkie and a small piece of sf cheesecake (which Fresh Market has here, and is pretty good).

If part of your problem is that you feel restricted, you need to give yourself choices. I'd personally rather have a slew of berries over a frickin twinkie... taste, nutrition, calories... the berries win.

Think about food as on a continuum and that some are better choices for your goals than others. Think about what is more conducive to your goals than some ratty-assed twinkie. If nothing else, have a small piece of real cake. Surely it'll be more worth it than that silly twinkie.
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I second the person who said to up your cals with good healthy food. The cravings for the crap will go away like magic if you do that.
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One person's strategy was to leave the naughty foods in the trunk of the car. If they were in the car, they couldn't get at them and if they were in the house, they'd be lazy enough not to go out to the car to get them.
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Aoife, I love your tough-love! It's funny, when I was eating that twinkie, a comment came to mind that I heard a nutritionist make at one time. I think I heard it on TV many years ago. He said, when it comes to twinkies you are better off eating the wrapper it came in.

I threw away what was left of that box. And not just in the inside trash...took them outside and smashed the box before putting it in the outside can.

Since the weekend is upon me, I am going to take the time to make some homemade, whole wheat banana bread. It's a recipe I got out of Cooking Light magazine many years ago and have used now and then to satisfy a sweet craving. I'm going to make a couple of loaves, cut them into individual pieces and freeze them.

I have fight with my cravings all the time. And it's funny...when I eat healthy, I feel great! When I eat crap...I feel like crap. It just boggles my mind that I still keep turning to crap.

Thank you so much, everyone, for the reality check. Especially thanks to Aoife. (by the way, is that you as a little girl in the picture?)


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Jodi I can really commiserate with you, I just got back from a conference where my diet went out the window for 3-4 meals plus a social with an open bar. I still got my workout in though. I was gone three days so not blowing it on all the meals was some restraint. Like not eating the whole box of twinkies And now that I'm back, I'll just buckle down and get back with the program.
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I was four. It was right before I started school. heh.

I find that it's better if I have something I really, truly want, when it comes to that sweet tooth. Not, "what do I want right now" or "what is around to eat" or "what kinds of crap can I load into my piehole".... but to really know the things I like a lot, know I like, and know are worth waiting for. Can't ever say twinkie has made any of my lists... ever.

I don't plan cheats, I try not to have them often, I try not to have them consecutively, I try not to go overboard. But one thing, that I know will be worth waiting for... means that I can say no to other crap not worth my time or calories.

I was talking to someone today who asked why I was drinking a diet pop. I said because I don't like to drink my calories. She was all... "wish I could be so disciplined." My response: "no calorie drinks means I can have cake." Not 100% true, but basically is how I try to guide my cravings. Rather than plow through the candy isle trying to satisfy that sweet tooth, that craving... a single lindor ball or ghiradelhi square would do it nicely. Quality above all else. Then the craving goes away. If I went with something lessor, the craving wouldn't and I'd be eating more and more and more crap, feeling worse and worse and worse, with some breakouts and sugar crashes and whatnot.

I frequently wish I was the person who just could easily abstain... Like I do with alcohol... it's neither here nor there for me. It's ok, but if I never had a drink again I wouldn't miss it. But I'm not, for whatever reason. So, I pick the next best thing I can. Have something occasionally, when I really want it and will appreciate it, and the rest of the time, focus on the things better serving my goals that I can have.

Of course I slip and binge here and there, wouldn't be 160 if that weren't the case, but overall, that's what I try to do. I know it's lack of restraint that helped get my sorry butt up to 200 in the first place.

I've found that cutting out those grains helps a lot... either because maybe I didn't tolerate them as well as I thought, or just because it makes the things I over-eat on... cake, cookies, pasta, bread... off limits most of the time, and forces me to act with restraint when I do partake because I know the consequences (crashes, cravings, etc) to my mental focus.

I tend to find that most cake sucks. Most candy sucks. I kept going back for more, thinking I hadn't had "enough" and that's why I craved more... really it was that I craved quality. Now a single good thing that I *know* I like will be enough.
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A twinkie? Really? A twinkie? A DAMN TWINKIE?!? You know they were all made 50 years ago, right? GROSS!

You're just being a brat. You want to have a nice perfect body with no work. So do the rest of us. Too bad there's that reality thing, huh. I mean, come on... you're not even for quality in your indiscretions. You pick a stupid, nasty, disgusting twinkie for crying out loud. What the hell is wrong with you, anyway? Sheesh!

ok. So, what I've found is that there's a balance I have to have. If I deny everything, I go really well for a while, then one slip turns into a huge downhill slide. If I have something here and there then I tend to have it more and more often. If I allow candy, but take away grains (cake, cookies, etc) and beans like on HELL, it actually works out ok. Because I can only eat so much raw sugar, but the grains+sugars are the big calorie sinks that bring me back for more, and more, and more and more and .... well, you get the idea.

You need to find your ok zone were you're not going insane from nothing, but not having stuff constantly, feeding the sugar which just calls to its own. Part of that is focusing on the things you can have guilt free. Then it becomes easier to choose between that nasty twinkie and a small piece of sf cheesecake (which Fresh Market has here, and is pretty good).

If part of your problem is that you feel restricted, you need to give yourself choices. I'd personally rather have a slew of berries over a frickin twinkie... taste, nutrition, calories... the berries win.

Think about food as on a continuum and that some are better choices for your goals than others. Think about what is more conducive to your goals than some ratty-assed twinkie. If nothing else, have a small piece of real cake. Surely it'll be more worth it than that silly twinkie.
Great post. And yes, don't eat the twinkie.

If you're going to have something sweet, consider someone's homemade cake. One slice for the week. Caveat, it has to be some one elses, at their house. No keeping it around your living space.

Work time is the worse for me. I work the night shift and when/if I go on break, I tend to raid the conference rooms of their leftovers. Somtimes it's a handful of nuts, but sometimes it can be several tootsie rolls, or some Szechwan BBQ potato chips.
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