Did the splitting occur immediately upon opening, or over time? (Wondering if/when I can consider my copy to be safe...)
Well, I have only had mine a couple of weeks (Dec. 17-20, maybe?) and I have read it and do reference it, but nothing drastic. I am actually very overprotective with my books, so I know it wasn't anything I've done. But, to answer your question, it is a pretty quick process. Mine made the cracking sound to begin with.
stingo - IIRC RW's was broken in the box it came in, mine seemed fine for a week or so (and I kind of flipped all the pages and checked it at the time because of the reports) and then it split - and not on a page where I'd left it open or particularly stressed it
Did the splitting occur immediately upon opening, or over time? (Wondering if/when I can consider my copy to be safe...)
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my copy (from b&n) was starting to split, so i tore it apart, cut the binding away and spiral bound it - am loving it!!
I've done that with books before, too, all soft covers. I always feel funny doing that at first, like I'm committing a sin, but it's always worked out fine. I've never done it with a hard cover, though.
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stingo, mine was fine the first week and then slowly started falling apart. It wants to fall all the way apart in the middle and the pages are coming apart from the glue. I'm actually hoping I can just tape it because I don't want to send it back to Amazon.
Mine was split the first night I opened it (picked it up at a B&N). It looks like whatever adhesive glue they used on the binding didn't take or something. No pages fallen out yet, though. I may bring it back to B&N and see if I can get a copy that is non-split (they had to dig the copy I got out of the back room--not on the shelves yet, so I'm going to wait for another week).
Yeah, mine's getting more cracks the more times I "crack it open". I am still waiting on my new one from B&N...I fear they may have shipped it back to my FIL's house even after we had a 25 minute coversation about it over the phone. Who knows when it will come, or if?
Mine started splitting almost immediately. That's why I thought my kids got to it. My little guy, age 3, is affectionately known as "Destructor" around here as it is. I read a couple of chapters the first day I got it, then had to leave to run an errand. I left the book on the end table in my family room. I came back a couple of hours later and opened it where I left off (it had a bookmark in it), and found the binding starting to split right there. I even commented to DH, "I've got this nice brand-new book, and look what the kids did to it." That's why I'm glad I saw this post--at least I know it wasn't Little Guy at it again!
Campingmom is our official volunteer -- she's sending her book to my editor in New York.
But I want to repeat that all these books should be replaced. Books aren't supposed to fall apart.
There must have been one particular part of the printing run where the binding machines malfunctioned. I have one copy of the book that I refer to multiple times a day to answer questions, and its binding is normal. So the problem must've occurred sometime after those first copies came off the press.
Campingmom is our official volunteer -- she's sending her book to my editor in New York.
But I want to repeat that all these books should be replaced. Books aren't supposed to fall apart.
There must have been one particular part of the printing run where the binding machines malfunctioned. I have one copy of the book that I refer to multiple times a day to answer questions, and its binding is normal. So the problem must've occurred sometime after those first copies came off the press.
My copy of the book from that first run is OK too; no problems falling apart at all. Like Lou said, something must have happened after that first printing.
We'll get this fixed for you all soon. I'm so sorry to hear this is happening. If anyone lives in CT and wants a new copy, PM me and I'll give one to you. We can even work out together!
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I took these pics last night. Looks like things have been resolved but thought I'd post them anyway. Both books are open to the same page. It looks like the glue that holds the pages together separated from the binding on the B&N copy, but things seem to be holding tight on the Amazon copy.
Cass, that's a generous offer. I may take you up on it. I'm just afraid you'd kick my a$$!
Barnes & Noble copy:
Amazon copy:
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On Krista mistressing the chin-up, "It's amazing", said one gym source, "considering that for months she just hung there like a dead fish."
Just to add my experience - I ordered from Amazon and noticed the binding split in a few places right away, the first time I read through the book. It seems to be holding together well enough to use for the moment.
My copy of the book from that first run is OK too; no problems falling apart at all. Like Lou said, something must have happened after that first printing.
We'll get this fixed for you all soon. I'm so sorry to hear this is happening. If anyone lives in CT and wants a new copy, PM me and I'll give one to you. We can even work out together!
I would love to work out with you!!! Where do you train?
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I took these pics last night. Looks like things have been resolved but thought I'd post them anyway. Both books are open to the same page. It looks like the glue that holds the pages together separated from the binding on the B&N copy, but things seem to be holding tight on the Amazon copy.
Cass, that's a generous offer. I may take you up on it. I'm just afraid you'd kick my a$$!
Barnes & Noble copy:
Amazon copy:
Awww ... c'mon Tracy ... we'd have a ball!!!
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I emailed Amazon the day before yesterday, and they mailed out a new book yesterday. All they want me to do is send back the old book and they provide the label (and shipping.) Easy enough.
Not yet, but i have the label to send it back as soon as I do get it. I am assuming that they sent it back to Kansas which is where I had it shipped over the christmas holiday. Bunch of ninkompoops.
I'm going to wait a few months. Hopefully, either the bindery will recall the bad batch or all the copies will get bought up by that time. I also hope the publisher starts to scrutinize and question the quality of this bindery's work.
So the new book from Amazon came yesterday...and guess what? Yup, the binding cracks.
Now what do I do? I obviously got a new book from the same batch.
The publisher is going to have to crack down on the bindery. Obviously they are using an inferior glue for the binding.
The publisher is likely going to be responsible for initiating any recall, even though the bindery would be largely responsible for the cost. Perhaps both Amazon and the publisher will come down on the bindery as the proverbial "rock and a hard place."
Annette, you'll just have to keep calling and demanding a replacement. Eventually, you'll get one with a better binding.
One of my friends (off this site) bought the book today and I advised her the problems with the binding and to hold onto the receipt in case she needs to exchange it. Another friend of ours made a comment, "I wish my exercise books came spiral bound".
What a novel idea! Is it more expensive to publish a book as spiral, because I'd definitely love my workout books as spiral!
Lou's editor should have received my copy today. I assume she wanted it so she would have some evidence to show to the printer to work toward getting the issue fixed. But I agree it's probably best to wait a bit to get a new one to avoid having the same issues. Check with your reseller on their return policy, though. If you wait too long, you might not be able to get a replacement.
I have never priced out printing a book with a spiral binding, but my guess is that it would cost considerably more. In general, the cheapest way to do it (for a very thin document) is to pop a couple of staples in the middle. Saddle-stitching is next, then gluing. I can only see spiral as being more expensive than any of those options, not less. They would also cost more to ship because the spiral prevents them from stacking neatly; therefore, less books would fit in a box, and you couldn't use automated systems to put the books into a box for shipping.
But if people would be willing to pay a couple of dollars more for spiral-bound books, maybe publishers should look into it more. I know I'd love it if my cookbooks were all spiral-bound, too!
Lou's editor should have received my copy today. I assume she wanted it so she would have some evidence to show to the printer to work toward getting the issue fixed. But I agree it's probably best to wait a bit to get a new one to avoid having the same issues. Check with your reseller on their return policy, though. If you wait too long, you might not be able to get a replacement.
I have never priced out printing a book with a spiral binding, but my guess is that it would cost considerably more. In general, the cheapest way to do it (for a very thin document) is to pop a couple of staples in the middle. Saddle-stitching is next, then gluing. I can only see spiral as being more expensive than any of those options, not less. They would also cost more to ship because the spiral prevents them from stacking neatly; therefore, less books would fit in a box, and you couldn't use automated systems to put the books into a box for shipping.
But if people would be willing to pay a couple of dollars more for spiral-bound books, maybe publishers should look into it more. I know I'd love it if my cookbooks were all spiral-bound, too!
And music scores too.
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AAAARRRRRGGGHHHHH!!!! Now, my Amazon copy is starting to split...all in the same places as my B&N book. This is a "precious" copy now so I can't return it like my B&N one. I'm soooo disappointed.
I think I may have to go this route:
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Originally Posted by karenmc6
my copy (from b&n) was starting to split, so i tore it apart, cut the binding away and spiral bound it - am loving it!!
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On Krista mistressing the chin-up, "It's amazing", said one gym source, "considering that for months she just hung there like a dead fish."
I've proposed spiral binding on workout books in the past, and the argument wasn't about cost. It was about selling them in stores. You can't put them spine-out on shelves because readers can't see the title of the book on the spine. And only so many books can be displayed cover-out.
There also might've been an issue with them getting tangled up if the spiral binding starts to come apart.
But I think the spine-out issue was the main problem.
We can even work out together! 
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