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01-04-2008, 12:12 PM
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alternative for wide grip lat pulldown??
i was hoping someone(LOU maybe??) might be able to suggest and alternative exercise to the wide grip lat pulldown. i'm working out at home for the first stage of the workout. i'm limited to body weight, a stability ball and adjustable dumbbells.
i've already substituted one arm rows for the seated row. would pullovers work for the wide grip lat pulldown?
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01-04-2008, 12:18 PM
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On page 201 Lou says that a pullover is an alternative exercise for the lat pulldown, just not a "perfect substitute". Hope that helps 
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01-04-2008, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sunshinekisses
i was hoping someone(LOU maybe??) might be able to suggest and alternative exercise to the wide grip lat pulldown. i'm working out at home for the first stage of the workout. i'm limited to body weight, a stability ball and adjustable dumbbells.
i've already substituted one arm rows for the seated row. would pullovers work for the wide grip lat pulldown?
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Try this out. You'll need to invest around $30 though.
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01-04-2008, 12:57 PM
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On page 201 Lou says that a pullover is an alternative exercise for the lat pulldown, just not a "perfect substitute". Hope that helps 
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fantastic! thanks! i'm not sure how i missed that...
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01-04-2008, 01:32 PM
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Try this out. You'll need to invest around $30 though.
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That's the bar i have 
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01-04-2008, 04:43 PM
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That's the bar i have 
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Where did you get it?
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01-04-2008, 07:19 PM
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Go to Perform Better and buy some bands ... you can even get inexpensive bands at Wal-Mart ... then you can do any cable-type exercises with ease, just attach at whatever height you need. The resistance is slightly different, but is an acceptable substitute.
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01-05-2008, 12:40 PM
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That's the bar i have 
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Vanessa, where did you buy it? Looks like what I'm looking for - something you can take down when not using.
How difficult is it to install/uninstall and is it sturdy? I'm always afraid I'll buy one and it'll fall out of the door frame while I'm doing the pull ups!
Alexandra
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01-07-2008, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MightyAl
Vanessa, where did you buy it? Looks like what I'm looking for - something you can take down when not using.
How difficult is it to install/uninstall and is it sturdy? I'm always afraid I'll buy one and it'll fall out of the door frame while I'm doing the pull ups!
Alexandra
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I have that exact bar. I got it at a local fitness shop. And once it's put together, you can take it up and down with no markings on your wall.
But how odd, they don't carry that band as shown in the clip.
Where can I find that?
Is there a specific name for the band he uses in the clip?
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01-07-2008, 02:17 PM
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Where can I find that?
Is there a specific name for the band he uses in the clip?
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The band in the clip looks like an Iron Woody band:
Woody Bands, Fitness Bands, Flex Bands, Exercise Bands from Iron Woody Fitness
Or here: Strength Bands: Strength band training
You can also buy bands from Dave Schmitz (the super band guy we all loved from JP's last Summit):
PERFORMAX Performance Training, training camps, programs and products for athletes and coaches
The original bands were made by JumpStretch and you can buy them from Elite Fitness Systems: Elite Fitness Systems
All three of those places are reputable companies with good customer service. Dave is great, as are the guys from Iron Woody's. I bought my purple band from Dave and I also have a pair of minibands from Iron Woody's.
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01-07-2008, 03:47 PM
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Thank you for this
Also... which resistance would I use?
Which band do you use ( thinking specifically for assisted pull-ups, as in the video clip)
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01-07-2008, 04:37 PM
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It all depends on how much help you think you'll need. Get a bigger band for more assistance. The video shows a medium Iron Woody band. That would give you 50-120 lb of assist (depending on how much it's stretched out) and it's wide enough that it won't roll up or pop off when you're using it. If you're strong enough to only need a miniband (which is only 1/2" wide), then it'd probably be easier to just do negative chin-ups because the band tends to roll off your leg or foot.
Or you could buy one of the packages that have several bands of various sizes. Then you could use a smaller band as you get stronger. They're pretty cool for lots of other exercises too. Dave Schmitz has a lot of information on how to use them up on his site.
This is the light band (which is purple) that I have. It's a similar size to the Iron Woody medium. PERFORMAX Performance Training, training camps, programs and products for athletes and coaches
The two companies label them differently and so it's a bit confusing. Iron Woody's calls them (in increasing order of thickness):
mini
super mini
small
medium
large
The JumpStretch bands are very close to the same sizes, just called:
mini
monster mini
average
light
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01-16-2008, 09:43 PM
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Since I can't do this particular exercise at home, I wonder if it's better to do the pullovers as suggested in the book or is it a better substitute to do wide grip assisted pullups? I have a pullup bar and I have Iron Woody bands, so I thought I'd run the question by all of you.
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01-17-2008, 10:44 AM
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If you've got the pull-up bar and the bands, try the assisted pull-ups. That's the more difficult choice. If it's just too hard, even with the bands to assist, then do the pullovers.
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02-20-2008, 01:37 PM
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Will these bands hold up a heavy person?? I can picture myself snapping one and getting some severe back lash LOL!
I am about 255 lbs. 
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02-20-2008, 01:46 PM
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Will these bands hold up a heavy person?? I can picture myself snapping one and getting some severe back lash LOL!
I am about 255 lbs. 
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Yes, don't worry about it. They're very stretchy, just like a rubberband. I suppose if you were to stretch them 10 feet or more, they might break, but do you intend bungie jumping from the 3rd floor with them? No? Then you're fine.
The blue colored bands might be what you need. They provide the most resistance/assistance I've found so far.
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02-20-2008, 02:11 PM
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Thanks a lot Cynic. I could've never figured it out!
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02-26-2008, 06:54 AM
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