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Old 10-23-2009, 04:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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AC's blog post today linked to a prominent trainer telling us to stop doing squats. This leads me to The New Rules of Lifting's New Rule #20 which will hopefully be added to the next edition.

"Everything you have learned is wrong! To learn the correct way please select Add to Cart"

In other words there is no profit in teaching what is already taught so we will condemn it and sell a new way. No wonder people had a tough time believing the earth was not flat. I am sure back in Columbus' day there were peddlers selling the earth is square or triangle or octagon. So my question is "Are squats flat or round?"
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Old 10-23-2009, 05:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"Everything you have learned is wrong! To learn the correct way please select Add to Cart"
Exactly!

I watched that video and my reaction was this: "Oh, I give up!"

I'm not an athlete or someone who makes money by being fit. So when I look for advice and information on exercise, I don't have time for people who play games with gimmicks and shocking headlines. I barely have time to exercise.

People in-the-know probably respect Boyle, but now his name has a red flag attached to it for me. I'm going to have a hard time believing anything he says. His uncompromising shock tactics reek of tabloid journalism and late-night infomercials.

All the personal trainers who have been getting results from conventional squatting were wrong? All of them? The results were... accidents?

It's especially disappointing that AC linked to this trash. Not once, but three times in the same blog post! Affiliate marketing at its worst.
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I guess the way I interpret it is, "Don't do back squats if your main goal is a Quads exercise". I do squats because I feel they work my torso, glutes, and back. For the true Quad exercises I like the Bulg split squats and hack squats and lunges. So I will keep doing them for the back and core workout, not for pushing max weights on my legs.
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Old 10-24-2009, 08:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I think we're getting too hung up on exercise names here. This all started with an article Mike wrote for me when I was at TMUSCLE.

He's making one major point, based on something he observed with his athletes: The best gains seem to come with what we call Bulgarian split squats, which he calls RFESS.

When I was editing a short-lived magazine called Muscle, Terry Todd, a strength-training historian, wrote an article saying that Eastern European Oly lifters didn't do any squats in their training. Instead, they did step-ups exclusively, and saw much better gains in strength and size than they ever got from squats.

So this is nothing new. And there's much, much more to Boyle's new product than a takedown of a single exercise -- which he isn't taking down so much as suggesting an alternative.

Boyle has been around for a generation. He's trained athletes who have entertained us in college, pro, and Olympic competition. He's one of the nicest, most honest, and most self-critical guys I've met in the fitness biz. He's admitted coming full circle on things like static stretching -- from "do it" to "don't do it" to "my athletes got hurt more often after we stopped doing it, so we started doing it again."

There are very, very few people who are as quick as Boyle to admit their mistakes and try to correct them.

Do we really begrudge him an opportunity to make money off a project that sums up what he's learned in the past few years? Yeah, the marketing is aggressive, but the people buying it are strength coaches and trainers whose jobs depend on them using the most up-to-the-minute systems with their athletes and clients. These are people who know what they're doing. Nobody's getting hustled or duped here.
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Old 10-24-2009, 03:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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He's been talking about this for a long time. His goal seems to be to find a good lower limb exercise that encourages strength gains, while reducing the load on the spine. His athletes don't lift weights for a hobby or for competition. They lift it for sports performance. So, there is no need to have a huge back squat. If he can get the same results without loading the spine, and can spare all of that nervous system fatigue and injury potential, then why not.

I don't think that he's saying that no one should ever squat again. He's just giving an alternative, albeit with a provocative title.
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Old 10-25-2009, 10:56 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Points taken. I guess my frustration is with his marketer who slapped the "Death of Squatting" title to the video. If his target audience consists of strength coaches and trainers, that title is casting too wide a net. Coaches and trainers can handle a more sophisticated title, I'm sure. But I guess a more accurate title would be a harder sell.

"Alternatives To Conventional Barbell Squats Using A Single Leg Lift Approach"
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For my own sanity, I'll just unsubscribe from AC's rss feed, as it's clearly not aimed at a casual crowd. Ignorance is bliss, etc.
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:14 AM   #7 (permalink)
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NROL Rule#20 at it's finest. http://warpspeedfatloss.com/blog/
This program has actually been running a countdown until the release date, otherwise known as the date the "Add to Cart " button will be activated.
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