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Old 10-08-2009, 01:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Look before you leap. I signed up to a new gym recently without paying enough attention to it's weights equipment.

The biggest problem is for the cable seated row. The only pulleys have a max weight which I can do on the 4x10 days. This is a problem for the 5x5 days and I'm going to switch over to doing the two-point dumbbell row.

Would anyone have any alternative suggestions, or does that sound ok?

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Do they have other rowing stations? Chest-support rows, T-bar rows, etc.?
If not, you could always use BB bentover rows to get the bilateral row effect.
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None of the other stuff, but barbell rows sound like a better idea.
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I've also hit this point with my gym and will need to substitute something for HYP I. They do have chest supported row machines (both the incline and seated variants) that allow for a semi-supinated grip. Is there any particular reason to choose bent-over row versus the chest supported row?
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I've also hit this point with my gym and will need to substitute something for HYP I. They do have chest supported row machines (both the incline and seated variants) that allow for a semi-supinated grip. Is there any particular reason to choose bent-over row versus the chest supported row?
I think the bent-over row will work more of your core and back. The chest-supported machines will isolate the upper back and biceps without involving the core or lower back or legs.
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You could do plate rows. Take a couple small plates (5s or 10s) and then stack 45s on them. Pick up the 45s and row them. Set back on the small plates. You don't have the use the small plates, but it makes it much much easier to pick up

Or depending on how strict your gym is you can take dumb bells and put them in the weight stack on the cable machine.
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Old 10-30-2009, 04:14 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Usually there are these little 5lb weights that fit perfectly into where the weight plates are for the cable pulley contraptions (lat pull downs, seated cable rows, etc). You can stack a bunch of these inside them...
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I've used the seated row machine with the chest support, but I pushed the chest support all the way to the front and did not use it. I sat towards the back, with semi-bent legs. This became pretty close to the seated cable row. Without the chest support your lower back and core get engaged and it is pretty similar. It works as a good sub in a pinch, but not as my regular exercise.
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The same thing happens in my gym, I know I can stack the whole thing and get 10 reps, so I do what others have suggested to you... get a DB and add it to the stack, in some cases it would be better if you have someone nearby to hold or at least keep an eye on the DB as you execute the row in case the DB wants to fall off...

T-bar rows are an excellent substitute IMO...
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