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Old 01-17-2009, 04:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

I've just started the break-in routines and am unsure about the close-grip lat pull-down - it it supposed to be done standing up (like a tricept exercise) or sitting down (like a normal lat pull-down)?

Also: I'm 32, 5'9, 160 pounds (I think!, I'm used to working with different measurements over here) and not too concerned about fat loss. I also run four or five times a week, but only the shorter distances used for training for a 5k. I've a very young daughter so am going to aim for two trips to the gym a week, and if I can make a third I'll treat it as a bonus.

I was thinking of doing HT 1, S1, S2, S3 and FL1 but am open to suggestions.

Sometimes I might find myself in a gym with no barbells for deadlifting and no machine for the cable row. Any other suggestions?

Thanks for your help
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hey! welcome. I am new as well. I have one more workout (tomorrow) to complete the break in phase. I looked up some videos of the close grip lat pull down -- sit. With regard to deadlifts, do you generally have access to a barbell? I always do deadlifts with a barbell. i tried db and found it to be easier (especially on the shins!) but i found that the BB lends itself to better form and as such, better (and safer) results. Regarding the workouts, I have questions myself...in fact I emailed Lou Schuler and was assured that any combination will show results provided you do the work, the recovery and manipulate your calorie/protein intake appropriately. I, like you, am not concerned with FL right now. That and the rule in the book stating that to build muscle, we need to build strength, I opted to go with strength followed by hyp followed by FL just in time to lean out for the summer....anyway, good luck, brother...and have fun!
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hey! welcome. I am new as well. I have one more workout (tomorrow) to complete the break in phase. I looked up some videos of the close grip lat pull down -- sit. With regard to deadlifts, do you generally have access to a barbell? I always do deadlifts with a barbell. i tried db and found it to be easier (especially on the shins!) but i found that the BB lends itself to better form and as such, better (and safer) results. Regarding the workouts, I have questions myself...in fact I emailed Lou Schuler and was assured that any combination will show results provided you do the work, the recovery and manipulate your calorie/protein intake appropriately. I, like you, am not concerned with FL right now. That and the rule in the book stating that to build muscle, we need to build strength, I opted to go with strength followed by hyp followed by FL just in time to lean out for the summer....anyway, good luck, brother...and have fun!
Hi Eric,

Thanks for the reply and sorry for the delay - I've a very young kid at home so getting a change to go to the gym is lucky enough, never mind getting a chance to read up on things online!

I'm splitting my days between two different gyms as they both have machines which the other one doesn't have.

It's pretty impressive that you can email Lou directly, bearing in mind that the book only costs a few pounds over here the overall package and service (with this forum included) is first class.

Good luck with it and thanks again,

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Like ericw said DLs are best done with a barbell or DBs. Look up cable pull throughs for something that you could use in a pinch to work your posterior chain.

If you have no cable for rows use DB rows or BB rows.
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If you find yourself in a gym with no cables. I would suggest these alternatives:

1) For Lat Pull downs do DB Pullovers
2) For Cable Rows do Bent Over DB Rows
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Also: I'm 32, 5'9, 160 pounds

I was thinking of doing HT 1, S1, S2, S3 and FL1 but am open to suggestions.

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I'm about the same size of you. I'm 5' 9" and weigh 150. I started the break in training last week. In the book there are four different programs you can follow. I chose the "Lifter #2: The Guy Who Considers "Skinny" An Insult" I would suggest the same program for you considering the program you made is very close. HT1, HT2, S1, S2, HT3, S3, FT1,2,3.

I never took a before picture yet so I suppose I'll take one and post it up on a thread somewhere.
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I'm about the same size of you. I'm 5' 9" and weigh 150. I started the break in training last week. In the book there are four different programs you can follow. I chose the "Lifter #2: The Guy Who Considers "Skinny" An Insult" I would suggest the same program for you considering the program you made is very close. HT1, HT2, S1, S2, HT3, S3, FT1,2,3.

I never took a before picture yet so I suppose I'll take one and post it up on a thread somewhere.
I'll take a look at that, thanks for the reply.

Since I'm probably only going to be able to train twice a week the first schedule I thought of was the one for people with very little free time.

I'm about to go onto a week off after doing the break-in so I'll start HT1 in any case.
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