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Old 12-10-2008, 05:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Couple questions from NROL newbie

I am wondering about the volume of work. I am not new to lifting, but am new to NROL. I have been following MHPT for roughly 8 months, and decided to give NROL a shot. For example the break-in period has me doing 3 full body workouts per week. with only 2 sets per excercise. Can/should these sessions be followed by any cardio (high or low intensity)? Also, on the days off would it help or hurt to add some HIIT or complexes? It just seems that the volume is going to be much less than what I am used to.
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Old 12-10-2008, 06:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Break-in is only for two or three weeks. I do it as recommended and then move on to whichever program you have selected to start with.
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Old 12-11-2008, 09:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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So I can conclude that additional work (cardio, HIIT, complexes) on the off days (not only in the break-in cycle, but the others as well) will effect the program in an undesirable way?
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't really understand the lack of response here. Was my question just stupid? I think to assume that all of you following the NROL training programs don't do any sort of cardio work is a little extreme. Does the book give a prescription and I just missed it? Let me know where I went wrong please.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Plenty of people actually do the program without additional cardio. They don't feel a need to and don't want to.

Plenty of people do extra work as their goals and desires include such work.

Plenty of people do extra fun activites one might consider cardio and they simply don't catalog as such because they just see it as going for a bike ride or canoeing or whatever.

I'd suggest doing what you want that fit in line with your goals and desires, eat to support that, and get enough quality rest that you're not beating yourself in the ground.

But if hypertrophy or strength are your goals, then extra stuff doesn't really help that and can hurt by not giving you enough recovery to rebuild or just be opposing work if you're doing a lot of endurance training.

Noone is ignoring you, they simply haven't necessarily clicked your post. There's a slowdown this time of year as people are away on various holidays and not here as much. There is a FAQ for the book, perhaps there might be an answer.
Very often people come along expecting a shit-ton of work, and ask similar questions to yours. If such an answer is not found in the FAQ, a search might better reveal it to you.

In the end, it all depends on your goals and what the rest of your time looks like.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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so - did you do the first week of break-in yet? Did you find you wanted to do more or was that enough for you?
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I actually saw some advice in another thread telling someone to skip the break-in and just start in on the Hyp1. I went ahead followed suit. So far I have done workout A once and workout B once. Both were great. I did do 10-12 minutes of HIIT after each workout. Feeling good so far, but just getting started. I guess I'll just have to pay attention to my body and use that as a guide.

I didn't mean to sound like I was complaining about being ignored, I apologize if that is how my last post came across. Sometimes text only doesn't do much as far as inflection goes.

I think I'll continue with Monday - A, Tuesday - B, Wednesday run 5K, Thursday - A, Firday - B, Saturday - complexes / tabatas. I will continue like this until I feel like I am missing out on recovery. I recently had a small brain tumor removed and gained a little body fat oer the recovery process. I would like to loose a little bit of that. I gained about 6 lbs of fat going from 5% bf to just under 9%.
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Well, better late than never, but here's my experience.
I'm from a typically endurance based backgroup but am stuck in an office when I'm not training. I'm aiming to achieve a typical beach body, you know the v shape and some mass. at 6ft 2 and 84kg it takes some work.
I've pretty much given up running and am working out between my house and a pretty good gym durning my lunch hour.

Here's how I do it.
Mon AM - Mobility work, COmplexes, Core
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oops back again
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I'm new to NROL too. Typical ectomorph guy - came from a running background, but been lifting for about 3 years or so. Actually have gained about 15 lbs. over that time. Skipped the break-in too. On workout 8 of HypI. Loving it, feel exhausted despite less time at gym. Not sure about visible results yet, but feel good. Looking forward to HypII and have big hopes. This better work!
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:49 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I skipped break-in too. I finished the NROLFW prior and didn't really want to start 15 reps AGAIN after doing stage 7 of NROLFW, which is "The Final Cut" and supposedly for fat loss with high number of reps. I am in the last stages of FLII now and am grateful for the 8 reps instead of the 12 it started with.
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