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Old 09-08-2008, 05:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was wondering what would be a better program for me, Starting Strength or NROL Beginner Program? I'm 6', 300 lbs., and have never lifted before. Also, and diet recommendations would be good. Thanks.
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've also considered The Testosterone Advantage Plan and The Abs Diet.
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I've recommended Testosterone Advantage Plan before. It's easy to understand, easy to follow (you even get idiot-proof meal plans with a shopping list) and provides a good foundation of knowledge.

TNT is also a good starter book, but it requires a bit more effort to plan out meals and such. I think the workout plan is a little more solid (no machines), and it has a comprehensive warmup that TAP lacks.

NROL has a good workout plan, and the nutritional info is well-written, but overall it's not a diet book.

I'm not familiar enough with Starting Strength to really comment, but I've heard it's well done.

Really, the best thing to do is pick one and get started. Any of these books have good beginner workout plans.
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Old 09-09-2008, 06:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I was wondering what would be a better program for me, Starting Strength or NROL Beginner Program? I'm 6', 300 lbs., and have never lifted before. Also, and diet recommendations would be good. Thanks.
I'd go with starting strength simply because its gives excellent diagrams and descriptions on how to perform the staple barbell lifts. You probably won't get it any better.
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TNT is a low carb plan. TAP is a moderate carb plan where you count calories. You can pick based on that. They are both good books to start out.

NROL and Starting Strength would be the next weight program after you've done the ones that come in the TNT or TAP books (each has workouts that lasts months).
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TNT is a low carb plan. TAP is a moderate carb plan where you count calories. You can pick based on that. They are both good books to start out.

NROL and Starting Strength would be the next weight program after you've done the ones that come in the TNT or TAP books (each has workouts that lasts months).
It appears as if you have fat to lose. Assuming that, TNT, TAP or NROL would be fine. If you want a more structured or directed eating plan, then TNT or TAP. If you want to start working out and just watch what you eat according to some general nutrition guidelines, then NR would be fine, too. If you've got a fair amount of fat, then just starting to work out and eating better and less will give noticeable results, regardless of the particular approach you take.

SS is oriented toward adding muscle and strength, which means not dieting down at the same time. However, it's still a good resource for learning the basic lifts well. I'd get it as a supplemental instructional guide along with whatever other book/plan you get.

As a very active and fit 70+ year old was heard to say, " Move your body for an hour each day and don't stick shit in your mouth."
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I'm familiar with both SS and NROL. Chris Correia is right about SS. I used to read Rippetoe's strengthmill forum regularly, and I think he said the same.
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