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Old 08-23-2008, 08:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Hyper I - Squats and Deadlifts

Well I've decided to move the Squats to workout A, I just simply can't do them back to back, even though there is NO superset.

I hope this is alright...
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Old 08-24-2008, 10:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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If you can't do them back to back, you're probably lifting too much weight.
Keep them together, and just drop the weight.
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Old 08-24-2008, 10:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You can do them back to back, but you usually have to lower the weight on your lifts. I found that fatigue will be a factor affecting form for DL's right after squats, so maybe you can do rack pulls until you move up in weight properly.
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I don't get it though... what's the point of lowering the weight with a Hypertrophy routine? Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose?
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I don't get it though... what's the point of lowering the weight with a Hypertrophy routine? Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose?
I think the general response to this is, "it's not a hypertrophy only routine."

There may be easier ways to get bigger, faster, with something other than NROL Hyp. But at the end of the day, you either believe in the routine, or you don't. If you believe in it, try to stick to it as best as possible. Because in the end, everything else is just excuses. If you don't really believe in it, maybe look for a different routine. Something that you agree with better, or better fits your goals.

or you could do squats on workout a.....
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:08 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't get it though... what's the point of lowering the weight with a Hypertrophy routine? Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose?
Well....you're not lowering the weight to the point that your workouts are a piece of cake, but rather you are lowering them in order to complete the reps and rest periods properly. I'm not a pro at bodybuilding, but I don't think that they train with max loads to achieve their hypertrophy.
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Hyper I is not really "squats and deadlifts" ... it's squats followed by deadlift+shrug. If you do the deadlift+shrug as suggested in the book (with speed, come up on toes), then you'll have no problem with decreasing the weights to get all the reps done. I think this is supposed to be an explosive move, like the high pulls in the A workout. I remember this was exhausting for me even though I was using lower weights compared to what I could deadlift. The lower weight will keep you from putting stress on your back.

Of course all of this is assuming no injuries, and assuming that you're using correct form.
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Hyper I is not really "squats and deadlifts" ... it's squats followed by deadlift+shrug. If you do the deadlift+shrug as suggested in the book (with speed, come up on toes), then you'll have no problem with decreasing the weights to get all the reps done. I think this is supposed to be an explosive move,
Great advice here, SS!
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