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Old 06-01-2008, 08:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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when the book says to do "lunges", lets just say it's 10 reps would that be 10 for each side or 5 for each side? because some of the lunges he says it's total and for others he says it's for each leg.

also for the normal lunges should i be going right, left, right, etc.... or doing all the one side and then all the other? again it's something he goes back and forth with and i dont remember which is which.

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Old 06-01-2008, 09:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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when the book says to do "lunges", lets just say it's 10 reps would that be 10 for each side or 5 for each side?
You know the answer to this one, you might not like it, but you know.

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also for the normal lunges should i be going right, left, right, etc.... or doing all the one side and then all the other? again it's something he goes back and forth with and i dont remember which is which.
I don't think that it matters. I know that I sometimes loose reps counting 1-1-2-2-3-3...
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I think the rule of thumb is to lead with your weakest side.

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Lmao yea your probably right. Honestly though i think i'm just gonna do 5/5. i started the first 2 sets with 10/10 and then did the step ups. unfortunately i went too light on each, i was sweating balls lol, but the weight was only about a 7/10 for intensity. i have room to move up at least. the thing is though if i do 10/10 for both lunges and step ups i know i'm gonna lose intensity and start to wimp out/get crappy form. with the 5/5 i'll push myself harder and it's not like i'm not getting a lot of volume as it is. either way it's not going to make a monumental difference
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It's 10 per leg, dude. Suck it up and do it!
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It's 10 per leg, dude. Suck it up and do it!
why? i honestly dont see a problem with doing the 5/5 and overall it will probably add intensity to my workouts. the only problem with be the 5x5 days because then i'm really on doing 2-3 reps per side

the main thing i need to fix is my step up. The highest thing i could really step onto was only about 10in. high and i was definitely not getting a full range of motion with that being 6ft. i'd probably need another 3-4 inches but i couldnt find any of the traditional platforms u step up on at my gym.
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Well, don't do it if you don't want to do it, but that's what the program calls for. If you want to do a different program, go for it.
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I'm obviously gonna stay with the program, thats not the point.

the point is that changing one exercise of one of the workouts so that it's getting half the number of reps but still with a heavy load isn't going to change overall results. your already getting the higher reps with 2 exercises before it and one supersetted with it. granted it's not exactly what is laid out but the basic principles are still there and honestly today i noticed that my form/lifts themselves will suffer from that original way. I've gone through much harder routines, but i'm just saying i'd rather keep the intensity high and have good form then to perform a few more reps and have intensity and form suffer. who knows though, i might switch it up with the half 10/10 half 5/5 like i did today
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The point is that if you get a program and change it, really in any way, for whatever reason, then you're not doing the program. You're doing your own variation of the program. It was written a certain way for a reason. Besides, only doing 5 total would be silly. If your form suffers with higher reps, you're using too much weight.
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The point is that if you get a program and change it, really in any way, for whatever reason, then you're not doing the program. You're doing your own variation of the program. It was written a certain way for a reason. Besides, only doing 5 total would be silly. If your form suffers with higher reps, you're using too much weight.
believe me the weight wasn't near too heavy. It was more an issue of being able to maintain high intensity with it. And why exactly would u think 5 would be silly over 10?
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Because it's silly to do 3 with one leg and 2 with the other.

I'm confused about your issue with intensity. You said that if you upped the reps to what's called for in the program, your form and intensity would suffer. If your form suffers, you're doing too much weight. Your intensity in a workout is gonna fluctuate some because there's those pesky rest periods. But during the set itself, using the proper weight to maintain form and tempo, intensity should remain roundabouts the same.

Unless your definition of intensity is different from mine, or i'm just not understanding what your issue is.
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Because it's silly to do 3 with one leg and 2 with the other.

I'm confused about your issue with intensity. You said that if you upped the reps to what's called for in the program, your form and intensity would suffer. If your form suffers, you're doing too much weight. Your intensity in a workout is gonna fluctuate some because there's those pesky rest periods. But during the set itself, using the proper weight to maintain form and tempo, intensity should remain roundabouts the same.

Unless your definition of intensity is different from mine, or i'm just not understanding what your issue is.
to clarify i mean i'll start going fast on the eccentric portion, just basically "getting through the exercise". thats self controlled, but its still a factor
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which program are you on? If its Hyp 1 or 2, I would do it as described. The idea of these is you get different Hypertrophy for each rep set. JMO
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which program are you on? If its Hyp 1 or 2, I would do it as described. The idea of these is you get different Hypertrophy for each rep set. JMO
im doiung h-1. i'll probably just stick with the reps but it's gonna suck lol
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