JP Fitness Forums powered by fitness insite  
Google
 
Web forums.jpfitness.com

Go Back   JP Fitness Forums > The New Rules of Lifting > The New Rules of Lifting - The Original
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

The New Rules of Lifting - The Original Based on the original book by Lou Schuler with workout programs by Alwyn Cosgrove

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-14-2008, 11:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 7
Default traditional squat vs front squat

I started FLII today and made the switch to front squats. I'm using the crossed-arm position since I can't get into the elbows-up mode.

I had to drop down about 20 lbs from the weight that I was using with traditional squats. Is this typical? Is the center of gravity changed that much with front squats? I actually find it a bit more comfortable, more balanced.
gocubbies is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2008, 11:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
dividing by zero
 
LisaS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Orange Cty, CA
Posts: 6,497
Default

Yes, front squat working sets and maxes are generally lower than back squats in the same set/rep schemes.
__________________
Training Log


Quote:
Water babies singing in a lily-pool delight
Blue powder monkeys praying in the dead of night
LisaS is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2008, 12:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Bill2380's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: MECHANICSBURG, PA
Posts: 3,077
Default

Only 20 lbs? That's pretty good.
__________________
'I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they
wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're
going to feel all day. '
~Frank Sinatra

WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may create the illusion that you are tougher,
smarter, faster and better looking than most people.

Bill2380 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2008, 12:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
Butterfly Viking General
 
karky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Norway
Posts: 1,812
Default

the difference in mine is actually something like 44 lbs
karky is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2008, 06:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 7
Default

Well the change percentage-wise is what counts most I guess. I'm a beginner and not using a ton of weight!
gocubbies is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 05-16-2008, 11:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
AFI82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 489
Default

I'd suggest continuing to work on the elbows up front squat position. Even for just a few minutes at the end of each session. I did the arms-crossed position and did well well it. But now I'm wanting to learn to Power Clean and wish I had worked on my wrist flexibility this time last year.
AFI82 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2008, 12:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 19
Default

I also find elbows up imposible to do, and I find arms crossed very uncomfortable with the bar resting on my front shoulders.

I much rather do back squats, but I guess variety is the main goal here.

I also feel like a pussy at the gym doing these as my weight drops a lot, seeing me front squat 70lbs for a guy 5"9 and 190lbs seems like a joke.
CTwizzy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2008, 12:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
pjb923's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Yonkers, NY
Posts: 1,746
Default

Currently my front squat is about 80% of my back squat.

When I first started front squats I was using very light weight and wrist pain would prevent me from completing my sets but I never felt stable using crossed-arms. I dreaded the workouts that called for front squats.

My method for improving was to do as many front squats as possible and then switch to back squats to finish each set. Next workout I would do the same with the goal of increasing my ratio of front/back squats with every session. As my wrist flexibility improved and I got more comfortable with the movement I started increasing the weight.

Don't worry about how much weight you are lifting and keep practicing. Most people in your average gym have never even seen a proper front squat.

Front squats do not come easily, but in my opinion they are worth the effort. They are now one of my favorite exercises and I can comfortably handle over 300lbs.
__________________
2009 JPFitness Summit Photo Gallery

It takes a deep commitment to change and an even deeper commitment to grow.--Ralph Ellison

My Training Log
My New Web Development Blog
Visit my Online Photo Gallery
pjb923 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:38 AM.

Features ...
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Ad Management by RedTyger